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(Originally posted on: 07-19-08 04:06:04 PM)
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I don't wanna take away from what is left of the ID thread in which this was posted.
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Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find no one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact we all should face.
Everyone makes judgments based on race!


I get that this is highly HIGHLY unlikely and I personally don't even believe it, but how are any of us to know that he isn't a Muslim sleeper cell hellbent on destroying America? Just being like "oh come on he would have slipped up by now" or "that's so naive" is a poor response, because it could still be possible. It's akin to some material in the CIA, Witness Protection or clandestine service in terms of sensitivity. If one truly wishes to hide a secret, one will do whatever it takes to keep that secret. All we really have to go on is what we know & how much we are willing to trust the candidates. And honestly, what do we all know about anything?

How wholly original of you, ice! omg yah rite fag lol
I'm so glad you got the actual point of that post. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you have to be an immature dolt about it, but apparently that's about as far as you ever get about things since you're too good to get off your high horse. (Yes, making stencils out of Barack Obama's face is really the epitome of both hip and intelligent.) I would have said the same fucking thing about McCain if he were the one being satirised on the cover of The New Yorker (which we all know is the end all, be all), because my point isn't omg his middle name is Hussein he must be an extremist, my point is that when it comes to politics and the federal government there is a lot more to the story than any of us know.
But if you want to go on believing I'm a racist for much tamer comments than YOU make all the fucking time, then go for it. I'm glad the RS Party has found their own spin doctor behind whom they can so firmly stand.
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Reply 1 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 04:20:03 PM)
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But it's not possible that he's a secret muslim. The only reason you think it's possible is because he's half black and he has an arabic name.
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Reply 2 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 05:21:28 PM)
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But it's not possible that he's a secret muslim.

I don't understand how it's not possible.
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The only reason you think it's possible is because he's half black

I know white people who are Muslim. For all I or you know John McCain is the one who is a secret Muslim.
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and he has an arabic name.

Last I checked, Barack Obama doesn't sound very Islamic. Middle names as a whole suck, and I would never be judgy because of something that the man can't control. Including his race.
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Reply 3 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 05:30:41 PM)
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I doubt you know any muslims, white or otherwise. Also, "arabic" isn't the same as "islamic".

What's your reasoning in wondering if he's a secret muslim if it's not based on his skin color or name?
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Reply 4 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 05:50:04 PM)
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I doubt you know any muslims, white or otherwise. Also, "arabic" isn't the same as "islamic".

Doubt all you want, but I went to high school with a pair of guys who are both Islamic. One is white & one is Iraqi, and thanks for pointing out the difference but I too know what I'm talking about. I'm not a sheltered yutz.
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What's your reasoning in wondering if he's a secret muslim if it's not based on his skin color or name?

Because there are other people who have done so? It's not like it would be a brand new idea or something, people pretend to be things they aren't all the time. What's to stop someone from pretending to be a different religion? He could be Jewish, too. So could McCain.
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Reply 5 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 06:00:33 PM)
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Other people have been born to an American mother and a Kenyan atheist father, come to America, gone to an Ivy-league law school, spent years volunteering in underprivileged neighborhoods and working as a civil rights lawyer before going into politics and running for president before revealing themselves as a secret muslim? What precedents are we talking about here?
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Reply 6 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 06:26:47 PM)
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people pretend to be things they aren't all the time

Did you entirely skip over that part or something? All circumstances are different, & I'm not just talking about religion.
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Reply 7 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 06:56:35 PM)
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So what the hell is your point?
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Reply 8 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:18:40 PM)
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That you don't know any better than I do what anyone is. That's my fucking point.
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Reply 9 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:22:28 PM)
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I hate sand niggers.
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Reply 10 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:29:10 PM)
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I know he's not a secret muslim, something that you seem to be having trouble with for some reason (racism)
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Reply 11 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:32:21 PM)
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I think you and Amphy are having two different conversations. She is discussing epistemology and you're talking about the most likely reality.

Yes, I guess we can't be 100% he's not a secret Muslim. We also can't 100% be sure that there isn't a teapot circling the Sun. Needless to say, there is no reason to believe either, but both could be possible.
The point is that no reasonable person believe either.

John McCain could also be a misogynistic, anti-Gook racist who calls his wife a cunt...oh wait MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS
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Reply 12 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:32:21 PM)
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Please tell me where I said that I believe that Obama is secretly Muslim. Please please please.
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Reply 13 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:32:24 PM)
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Ice... if he was a secret Muslim that anybody knew was a secret Muslim... then he wouldn't be very good at being a secret Muslim...

Note: I don't think Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist, and I think the idea is kind of cute. But it's also common sense that if he were one, he probably would not tell you or give many hints about it. I don't think you'll find bomb-making devices in his basement.
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Reply 14 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:36:53 PM)
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Yeah, but since it's 100% improbable that he's a secret muslim, what the fuck is the point of bringing it up all the time? Unless you just dislike him for some reason you can't quite find the words to express... (racism)

I understand that Amphatrits is saying that we can't be sure of anything, but that's just a refuge of someone who has lost a debate.
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Reply 15 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:40:29 PM)
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It's kind of routine for people to talk up improbabilities isn't it?
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Reply 16 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 07:49:25 PM)
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Unless you just dislike him for some reason you can't quite find the words to express... (racism)

And hiding behind a tag of racism is the refuge of someone who can't come up with an actual response.
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Reply 17 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 08:30:32 PM)
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response to what

you're pretty bad at this imho
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Reply 18 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 08:33:13 PM)
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And imho you don't seem to realise that this is about you being just as judgmental as you claim I am. You're calling me a racist just because I'm saying that people have secrets and you're unable to handle it.
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Reply 19 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-19-08 09:35:42 PM)
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Yea I kind of don't get the logic behind "suspicions of being a secret Muslim" and "you think this because he's black". That's kind of a race-neutral thing.
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Reply 20 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-20-08 12:31:01 AM)
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Who cares whether or not he's a secret muslim? He's still a fuckin' socialist either way.
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Reply 21 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-20-08 01:54:52 AM)
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Who cares whether or not he's a secret muslim? He's still a fuckin' socialist either way.
ahahahhahahahahaha

obama

a socialist

ahahahahhahahah

Really though, Obama actually being a socialist and winning the presidency of the United States would be the best thing to happen so far this century. Fuck free market capitalists. Fuck them all. The majority are either gun nuts, spoiled brats, poor assholish people with delusions of being rich or the incredibly rich, and all of those can get fucked.
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Reply 22 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-20-08 09:23:30 AM)
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Separation of church and state etc.
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Reply 23 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-20-08 10:59:25 AM)
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Yea I kind of don't get the logic behind "suspicions of being a secret Muslim" and "you think this because he's black". That's kind of a race-neutral thing.


There wouldn't be any controversy about this if he were just another white guy, so yeah, I think it's based on race

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He's still a fuckin' socialist either way.


haha this is just as baseless as the muslim accusations
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Reply 24 of 75 (Originally posted on: 07-20-08 11:04:46 AM)
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it's bush

bush is the secret muslim

bush isn't incompetent

in fact, he's very competent

he is sending over infidels to be killed in iraq
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