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(Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:06:27 PM)
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I have to make a schedule for next autumn, and I don't know what classes to take. The academic adviser told me I wouldn't be completely fucking myself over if I had a liberal arts degree instead of engineering or business, so that made me feel better.

I'm thinking of double majoring in Chinese and another language, and I'm stuck between making that other language Arabic or Russian. I plan to learn both ultimately, but I gotta choose which one right now. I know Arabic could get me a job, but I'd rather not work for the State Department or have to be shipped off to Kuwait City for some business. Russian girls would probably put out a lot more. But I don't know which one to pick.

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Reply 1 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:16:50 PM)
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Russia is back on the rise in Europe. go with the Russian.
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Reply 2 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:19:39 PM)
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A lot of Arabic courses are actually Classical Arabic, which no one actually speaks, so make sure it is a Modern Arabic course if that is what you decide to choose.

Why are your choices Arabic or Russian? Why not something slightly more practical (like Spanish)?
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Reply 3 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:23:54 PM)
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Between the two, Russian is what I'd learn. Neither would be my first choice though.
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Reply 4 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:29:38 PM)
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It's Modern Arabic, so I'm not getting tricked or anything.

O yea and I should've mentioned this. I already know French and Spanish from high school, so I'm not gonna waste a class on that. I want to take really hard languages in college that I otherwise couldn't learn on my own. German, Portuguese, Italian, etc are languages that I can easily learn outside of school when I have the time.
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Reply 5 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:37:51 PM)
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Arabic. We can learn together.
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Reply 6 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:42:13 PM)
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I forgot to include my justifications for Russian:


  1. "Russia is back on the rise in Europe. go with the Russian."
  2. Andrei Tarkovsky
  3. Fyodor Dostoevsky
  4. Nikolai Gogol
  5. etc.

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Reply 7 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:53:17 PM)
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Don't learn German, it's horrible.
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Reply 8 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 05:58:11 PM)
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I would still like to learn Arabic, but that's because of personal preference and one option to where I'd like to end up. Either are okay languages. Russian would be easier. Other than the character set - which, in all honesty, isn't that many new characters - the language is easy to pick up. For the most part it's phonetic.
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Reply 9 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:03:45 PM)
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I guess I would choose to learn Arabic, because a) it seems more interesting, b) possible business travel is in warm areas and not the bitter, frozen north, c) Arab food is much, much better than Russian food (so much better), d) Russians are scary

But really I would reconsider these and choose Spanish if I were you.
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Reply 10 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:06:02 PM)
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I already know Spanish. Everybody knows Spanish. Todo el mundo!

Russians are scary as hell, but so are Arabs. MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS
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Reply 11 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:13:06 PM)
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Yeah, everyone knows Spanish, but it's good to know it so you can speak it. They have the best curse words and the chicks are hot and Spain is fucking great and I bet South America is too.

Knowing how to read and listen to a language is a lot different from knowing how to speak it, and Spanish is easy enough that it's quite feasible to get to that point within a few years.
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Reply 12 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:21:33 PM)
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I bet South America is too.


I will take that bet, sir.
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Reply 13 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:27:02 PM)
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Quoted from ice:
Yeah, everyone knows Spanish, but it's good to know it so you can speak it. They have the best curse words and the chicks are hot and Spain is fucking great and I bet South America is too.

Knowing how to read and listen to a language is a lot different from knowing how to speak it, and Spanish is easy enough that it's quite feasible to get to that point within a few years.


I've already gotten to that point with Spanish. I'm deciding whether to get to that point with Arabic or Russian first.
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Reply 14 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:41:12 PM)
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Jose forget Russian and Arabic you should really learn Spanish
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Reply 15 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 06:49:16 PM)
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Kuwait City isn't that bad of a place (as long as you're not in the military)

Also, there are TONS of jobs with oil companies, and other related industries that probably out pay the state department x10 knowing german, would probably be great to go along with that as many engineers over there are german.
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Reply 16 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 07:15:28 PM)
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I know in American there aren't THAT many people who speak Russian or Arabic. Seeing as how Mexico is directly south of us, you might want to look into learning Spanish. Might be more useful.
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Reply 17 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 07:37:21 PM)
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I already know French and Spanish from high school, so I'm not gonna waste a class on that.

I'm going to call your bluff on this for good reason. The typical high school language course teaches you enough for basic conversation. Unless you were a hardcore language student in high school or participated in an immersion program, I doubt you have mastered these languages well enough to be taken seriously in a professional setting with native speakers. The best way to improve your skills is through constant practice, and if you don't have access to that level of practice, then at least taking more courses can afford you that opportunity.
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Reply 18 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 08:36:58 PM)
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If you want a complex, foreign language why not do Japanese? That way you can travel to Japan and go to town with your large american penis.
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Reply 19 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 08:45:35 PM)
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Quoted from wheezy:
I know in American there aren't THAT many people who speak Russian or Arabic. Seeing as how Mexico is directly south of us, you might want to look into learning Spanish. Might be more useful.

I agree, learning Spanish will be beneficial because you will be able to communicate in, in Spanish, with Spanish speaking peoples. Which there are many of in and around this country. Its really the better decision you should reconsider.
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Reply 20 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-16-08 09:40:13 PM)
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If you take arabic, you have a shot at being in the FBI or CIA due to recent times, but there are some really funny russian insults lol. I read a book on them in borders once...Something about your mother...over seven fences...
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Reply 21 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-17-08 01:32:38 AM)
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I'd go with Russian. I think it's more beautiful than Arabic, but this is a matter of taste. On the other hand, Arabic is probably more useful right now (provided you're good with dialectal variations). The Cyrillic alphabet is much easier for a Westerner, but I reckon it'd only take you about a week to master the Arabic script if you tried hard enough, so that's not really an issue.
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Reply 22 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-17-08 04:23:01 AM)
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Quoted from emtilt:
I forgot to include my justifications for Russian:


  1. "Russia is back on the rise in Europe. go with the Russian."
  2. Andrei Tarkovsky
  3. Fyodor Dostoevsky
  4. Nikolai Gogol
  5. etc.



among others....but really, one would have to spend years before being so good that you read them in russian
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Reply 23 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-17-08 08:22:34 AM)
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I agree, learning Spanish will be beneficial because you will be able to communicate in, in Spanish, with Spanish speaking peoples. Which there are many of in and around this country. Its really the better decision you should reconsider.


because we all know they don't have the mental capacity to learn english!

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Reply 24 of 41 (Originally posted on: 04-17-08 09:24:39 AM)
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Quoted from JosÚ Rizal:
I already know French and Spanish from high school, so I'm not gonna waste a class on that.

I'm going to call your bluff on this for good reason. The typical high school language course teaches you enough for basic conversation. Unless you were a hardcore language student in high school or participated in an immersion program, I doubt you have mastered these languages well enough to be taken seriously in a professional setting with native speakers. The best way to improve your skills is through constant practice, and if you don't have access to that level of practice, then at least taking more courses can afford you that opportunity.


I took it for five years in high school, got well above the "conversational" level, and often chat with a guy in my hallway who is from the Dominican Republic. I occasionally forget some expressions here and there, but it's nothing that ten days immersed with a few Spanish speakers couldn't fix. I'm not going to waste an entire semester or an entire year learning a language that I essentially already know.

So everyone stop with the Spanish. I'm looking for the choice between Arabic and Russian, and I have narrowed it down to those choices for good reasons.
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