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LONDON - Using marijuana seems to increase the chance of becoming psychotic, researchers report in an analysis of past research that reignites the issue of whether pot is dangerous

Like there weren't already enough crazies on here.

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hardly, I'm crazy because I'm a honey nut eating lonely woman

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haven't they been trying to prove pot's dangers since the 60s?

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In my understanding, that was just propaganda. Like, "pot is bad, mmkay, it kills brain cells." But then there wasn't a study that'd correlate with that. Then again, I'm not an expert, so I don't know the history or anything. In fact, I believe the more modern-day studies say that it's fine in regards to brain cells and such.

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There are a few things that make me question this a bit.

firstly, its sponsored by the british health department (remember, their american cousins are the ones that told us that e puts holes in our brains), and secondly, this bit:

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“The available evidence now suggests that cannabis is not as harmless as many people think,” said Dr. Stanley Zammit, one of the study’s authors and a lecturer in the department of psychological medicine at Cardiff University.

this is pretty much the single biggest issue with most drug studies. odds are a decent number of people who smoke pot differ from the rest of society to enough of a degree to produce confounding suggesting that there is a relation between smoking and psychosis, although there may be no causal link between the two.

with harder drugs the usual issue is that they can't tell what other drugs subjects might be using, but with pot that would play less of a factor (although not one that should necessarily be disregarded, as probably at least a third of people who smoke weed will do harder drugs on occasion)

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Smoking weed is a lot different than getting addicted to it. The former is unlikely to affect anything, but the latter is likely to ruin your life as a productive member of society and cause you to turn to crime/begging to find enough money to support your habit.

That said, the reason society wants to ban it is because it creates unproductive citizens. People who contribute to the burden of the tax payer while not really offering anything towards the tax base. If junkies weren't the selfish, vindictive creatures they are, they would realize that though pot isn't "bad" for their bodies, it is "bad" for general society.

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You sound like one of those idiot moslem dads, who would force his daughter to marry her cousin, and when she doesn't, because she doesn't want to, he kills her for the family's "honor"

just because you are born into a culture, doesn't mean you have to agree with it, everything is relative from person to person

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maybe crazy people just like to smoke marijuana.

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Smoking weed is a lot different than getting addicted to it. The former is unlikely to affect anything, but the latter is likely to ruin your life as a productive member of society and cause you to turn to crime/begging to find enough money to support your habit.

i smoked weed everyday last spring and still got good marks from one of the top universities in america

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Everybody smokes weed. It's normal now.

I distrust almost all stats on drug culture. They can find stats to support ANY claim they want just by choosing who to ask.

Yea I bet you could find 50 hippie freaks that blaze mad weed and hate the government, and you probably would find a correlation.

Even if they are sampling people at random, undoubtedly, the first question would be "do you smoke weed". Now, by day, alot of people still frown upon it, so I'm willing to bet that alot of people would say "no", almost by kneejerk. It's like being asked by your boss if you smoke weed. I'd probably say no, too (unless he's chillin).

But I'm sure some of those people that said no will go right home and smoke a fat blunt.

doctors lawyers professors cops electricians plumbers teachers firemen truck drivers accountants actuarians judges prison guards salesmen all smoke weed.

I read that 17% of Canada's population smokes weed. I bet that the REAL value is higher.

EDIT: and to what asthetik said, I go to Canada's Top University in the world's most intelligent city. For a physics degree. I'm high right now.

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EDIT: and to what asthetik said, I go to Canada's Top University in the world's most intelligent city. For a physics degree. I'm high right now.

Somebody's got a pretty high opinion of Waterloo. :p

But on topic, I'm of the belief that weed is ok if you don't smoke it all the time. It's when you're in a constant haze that it becomes a problem. It also depends on the person and the strain of weed.

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Smoking weed is a lot different than getting addicted to it. The former is unlikely to affect anything, but the latter is likely to ruin your life as a productive member of society and cause you to turn to crime/begging to find enough money to support your habit.

i smoked weed everyday last spring and still got good marks from one of the top universities in america

Yeah, because you are representative of all the weed smokers in America.

I'm sure Pedro down by the docks living in that cardboard box went to college too. And you know why? Because he smoked weed!

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I'd like to meet your friend Pedro that is living in a cardboard box.

Unless of course you just made him up, and in which case, you should realize that people that ACTUALLY smoke weed, like me and asthetik and half the people on this forum, would have a MUCH better idea about what weed culture is all about.

Colleges and Universities are FLOODED with pot.

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Colleges and Universities are FLOODED with pot.

Understatement of the century. On 4/20, a fog descends over my town that is not of natures doing...

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Just out of curiosity, why do you all smoke it, to be a rebel? To be cool?

Seriously, that stuff smells like shit and my guess is it tastes the same. It's the same deal with cigarettes, I don't know how people can stand it long enough to get addicted to them.

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Just out of curiosity, why do you all smoke it, to be a rebel? To be cool?

Thats a big NO followed by a large NEGATIVE.

People do it because it feels good.
People smoke cigarettes because it calms the nervous system, so people find it extremely relaxing.
In the same way, weed enhances your mood and relaxes the nervous system.

Until you try it a few times, you'll probably never understand.

And in my opinion, weed smells really good. Cigarette smell I could do without.

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What got you started on it though?

Obviously when you started you weren't just looking to become 'relaxed'

I know that's not what I was going for when I got drunk the first time.

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Quoted from Tarfagus:

Unless of course you just made him up, and in which case, you should realize that people that ACTUALLY smoke weed, like me and asthetik and half the people on this forum, would have a MUCH better idea about what weed culture is all about.

lololol "weed culture."

I smoked more weed than any person really should and then I gave it up because actually yeah smoking that much pot is really stupid. The only people who think that pot is totally safe are the people who smoke it a lot, so you know, not really an unbiased analysis there.

It's not really taboo anymore, and I don't really see a problem with people who smoke occasionally and just for fun, but there are so many burnouts out there for whom a smoke is the highlight of their day/life and to me that is just really pathetic.

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LONDON - Using marijuana seems to increase the chance of becoming psychotic, researchers report in an analysis of past research that reignites the issue of whether pot is dangerous

Well, I think that is true. Considering side effects like the paranoia a lot of people experience when smoking, it doesn't seem to me such a giant leap to think that those effects will start to be apparent even when someone isn't stoned... just like how drinking has deleterious effects on the body. I don't know when or how people ever got the idea that NOTHING BAD COULD EVER HAPPEN as a result of smoking pot.

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I go to Canada's Top University in the world's most intelligent city.

Bahahahaha.

I wrote this whole post just so I could say "deleterious" today.

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I go to Canada's Top University in the world's most intelligent city.

Kingston is far superior to Waterloo.

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Maclean's seems to think so.

And some jerks at ICF seem to think so too.

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Haha whatever though. I don't care too much.

Kingston is great yeah omg yah rite fag lol

. I'm a big fan of their cells. Alot more spacious than other places. And the guards are alot nicer there!

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That's actually the reason I've been to Kingston, my step-Father is a parole officer and had to go there to present a training consultation for other officers.

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Of course. There's three reasons why somebody lives in Kingston:
-Military
-Queen's U
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-Ex-Con

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Having read the article, it simply says they performed a review of data from many previous studies that tracked tens of thousands of users over a course of time ranging from 1 to 27 years. They concluded that users of weed pretty much across all studies had an increased risk of developing a mental disorder. But due to the nature of the study could not rule out other factors such as people who use weed being more prone to a mental disorder, with the frequency of weed use correlating to how likely they were to have it. The study basically says that an actual study needs to be done on the actual long-term health effects of weed.

This is a summary since lots of people won't read the article and will instead spout some stuff off like Tarfagus did in post 10. This study doesn't really add much of anything new per se to the knowledge about how weed affects a user, but it does show there is a definite correlation between weed use and the risk of mental disorder. Yay.

I personally don't care if people use it or not. If they do then while they are high it is easy for me to manipulate money out of them at least big grin

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