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(Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:00:37 PM)
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Recently, I graced Wikipedia with the dubious honor of being their newest member. No, it was not to perpetuate socialism or promote the free-source movement, but it was to protest their sweeping generalization that all holocaust revisionists are, by default, anti-Semites; that if you oppose what the man in the suit says, you are a Jew-burning Nazi who deserves nothing less than to be put on a whithering tour of the Museum of Tolerance (yes, it is a real place) and to have the ADL stuff a huge law suit up your ass.

Ussually, I am fine with differing opinions as I know mine are no cake walk either, but what is going on is literally an exercise in authoritarianism and power abuse; jpgordon, the resident of PC policeman of Wikipedia's "Jewish History section", has decided that in the face of an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary, he will not allow one fucking word to be edited out of that page. And if you didn't guess what the word was, you are a moron: "anti-semitism". He has his head stuffed so far up the asshole of Judaism, Israel, and Zionism that whenever something even remotely opposed to them arises on Wikipedia, he immediately swoops in to slap it down and use the tried and true technique to discredit it: IT'S ANTI-SEMITIC! CALL OUT THE DOGS!. And on a site which is supposed to pride itself on being fair and open-minded, this is like pouring catsup sauce all over your vanilla cake.

This is a joke, and furthermore, this just reaffirms to me once again that there is some insidious force on this planet which teaches each successive generation that it is NOT okay to question the motives or ideas associated with Judaism or anything even remotely related to it. Why else would the ADL spout the word ANTI-SEMITISM whenever you claim Zionism is little more than fascism and land-grabbing? Why else would the government pour millions of dollars a year into "Tolerance" museums which actively collect and create propaganda? Why else would most major European countries (Including good ol' Canada!) actively censor and repress those with "undesirable tendencies towards racism and contradictory ideas about the Holocaust"?

Support me in supporting the boycott of Wikipedia until they decide that free-speech and unbiased cataloguing are more important than make some minority group feel good about themselves and their bleeding hearts!
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Reply 1 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:06:28 PM)
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Shutup you fucking Jew.
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Reply 2 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:07:33 PM)
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You're part of the conspiracy, aren't you IF0?
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Reply 3 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:24:26 PM)
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I hope you read your welcome message and took it to heart!
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Reply 4 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:33:20 PM)
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I made some wikipedia entrys. Made my day.

Also Canada is in league with europe, the zionists and lex luthor to rule the world.
Tackle 'em all. Let the referee sort it out later.
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Reply 5 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:35:38 PM)
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Did you really expect Wikipedia to be unbiased? Honestly.
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Reply 6 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:40:52 PM)
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This is the most anti-semitic thread I've ever read
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Reply 7 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:41:23 PM)
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Did you really expect Wikipedia to be unbiased? Honestly.


I don't expect miracles.

But when actively confronted with the bias, I expected them to at least have the decency to rectify it.

Obviously, when you assume....
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Reply 8 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:43:56 PM)
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Okay everyone. WIKIPEDIA is not a credible source. Please consult a book and some other references.
Tackle 'em all. Let the referee sort it out later.
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Reply 9 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:45:39 PM)
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That's not the point Mr. E.

They blatantly misrepresent information in an almost malicious attempt at spreading lies and propaganda.

And people wonder where those crack-post theorists get their fire...
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Reply 10 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:50:20 PM)
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The internet is based on blatantly misrepresent information in an almost malicious attempt at spreading lies and propaganda.
Tackle 'em all. Let the referee sort it out later.
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Reply 11 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:52:30 PM)
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Why can't books be written by scholars and researchers with a prejudice or subconscious bias?
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Reply 12 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:54:35 PM)
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Did you really expect Wikipedia to be unbiased? Honestly.


I don't expect miracles.

But when actively confronted with the bias, I expected them to at least have the decency to rectify it.

Obviously, when you assume....

I might be going out on a limb here, but why don't you dig up the sources needed to change it instead of ranting? You argued on the discussion page, but you didn't actually produce a source, which is necessary (at least it is supposed to be) to change the info. Maybe you'll have better luck if you actually support your case.
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Reply 13 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 09:57:11 PM)
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Why can't books be written by scholars and researchers with a prejudice or subconscious bias?


They can I am just too tired to night to argue the pros and cons and connections between books and wikipedia. But I know where you are comming from. Both can be written without and real fact or basis.
Tackle 'em all. Let the referee sort it out later.
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Reply 14 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:01:19 PM)
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The internet is based on blatantly misrepresent information in an almost malicious attempt at spreading lies and propaganda.


Like pop-culture, it is a money making scheme.

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I might be going out on a limb here, but why don't you dig up the sources needed to change it instead of ranting? You argued on the discussion page, but you didn't actually produce a source, which is necessary (at least it is supposed to be) to change the info. Maybe you'll have better luck if you actually support your case.


Look dude, they are the one who failed to provide a causal explanation for why anti-semitism actually equates to holocaust revisionism. Instead of providing a shred of evidence proving their claim, they instead rely on opinions from people obviously biased and ready to slander revisionists whereever they are. It is the claimant's job to provide their facts. AS it stands, they have provided only intellectual opinions which count for little mro than bubkiss.

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Why can't books be written by scholars and researchers with a prejudice or subconscious bias?


That page is (and the claim} is based on books and scholars with an obviously biased opinion intent on slandering people they disagree with. Its like asking a Nazi whether or not a Jewish guy is good person, it doesn't follow.
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Reply 15 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:03:50 PM)
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Look dude, they are the one who failed to provide a causal explanation for why anti-semitism actually equates to holocaust revisionism. Instead of providing a shred of evidence proving their claim, they instead rely on opinions from people obviously biased and ready to slander revisionists whereever they are. It is the claimant's job to provide their facts. AS it stands, they have provided only intellectual opinions which count for little mro than bubkiss.



It is user moderated, and you are the user, so if you want it changed do the work to present your case and get it changed. "They" is just whoever feels like working on the article; that seems to be you. So if you want it improved, put some effort into it and do the research instead of just complaining. That's how wikipedia works.
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Reply 16 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:07:31 PM)
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I submitted it to a GA review, but at the looks of it with all of the liberal, Jew-sympathizing PC-nazis, i highly doubt it gets far.

This shows once again that people are raised from an early age to present their anus to Jews and not ask why.
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Reply 17 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:09:56 PM)
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Maybe you could start your own encyclopaedia online you could call it hitlerpaedia
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Reply 18 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:11:00 PM)
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Did you do it the same way you did on the discussion page? Because that won't work. You need to actually provide counter sources, because they have sources supporting their side. In that situation, don't expect much change unless you provide other sources supporting your argument.

And, as I said before, if you can't be bothered to find the sources to support your case on a user moderated site, you have little room to complain, because it doesn't pretend to be an authoratative, scholarly publication. You are just as responsible as the other people, if you don't put forth that effort.
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Reply 19 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:13:08 PM)
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Pretty soon we will be the only hit for hitlerpaedia on the internet.
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Reply 20 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:16:48 PM)
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Maybe you could start your own encyclopaedia online you could call it hitlerpaedia


Conservapedia beat me to it!

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And, as I said before, if you can't be bothered to find the sources to support your case on a user moderated site, you have little room to complain, because it doesn't pretend to be an authoratative, scholarly publication. You are just as responsible as the other people, if you don't put forth that effort.


I have to put forth finding source with proove my point when they can't bother finding ones which proove theirs?

WTF kind of doulbe standard is that?

Anyways, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE supporting the claim in verifiable data that anti-semitism is at the base of holocaust revisionism.
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Reply 21 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:34:28 PM)
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I have to put forth finding source with proove my point when they can't bother finding ones which proove theirs?

WTF kind of doulbe standard is that?

Anyways, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE supporting the claim in verifiable data that anti-semitism is at the base of holocaust revisionism.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_revisionism#_note-0

Either discredit theirs or provide your own. Or whine on INTL.
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Reply 22 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:35:52 PM)
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*stabs wikipedia*
there, is the fault in having idiots write article...and then wikipedia letting them be so....uhg.
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Reply 23 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 10:38:05 PM)
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Pretty soon we will be the only hit for hitlerpaedia on the internet.

Hitlerpaedia AND Wawa Lemonade Tea!
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*stabs wikipedia*
there, is the fault in having idiots write article...and then wikipedia letting them be so....uhg.

Um, a lot of people work on Wikipedia and I don't think they're all idiots.
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Reply 24 of 100 (Originally posted on: 06-08-07 11:44:07 PM)
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This is a joke, and furthermore, this just reaffirms to me once again that there is some insidious force on this planet which teaches each successive generation that it is NOT okay to question the motives or ideas associated with Judaism or anything even remotely related to it.

Yes, we call that force Hitler.

After such events as those of the second world war, there's bound to be a reaction concerning what is generally considered acceptable.
This doesn't need some kind of conspiracy, it just happens.

As we know, questioning the motives of judaism was not widely frowned upon before the mid 20th century.

This effect has already started to disappear though, possibly speeded up by the israel-palestine conflict.
So you may be allowed to bash the jews again soon.
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