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(Originally posted on: 05-02-07 12:15:50 PM)
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The time has come for me to get off my lazy ass and do something, and I finally decided on that last night. I'm opening my own adult store, here in central Tennessee. The only problem is, I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. I know I need a business plan and experience in the field, at least according to the VA. Experience isn't a problem, but I've never even thought of how to write a business plan, let alone know what outline I need for one.

I already have numbers for wholesalers, I have a realtor looking for property next to an interstate, and after I go to city hall tomorrow, I'll know what kind of business permits will be necassary for me to actually operate this place. Then there's insurance, security, bank accounts, lawyers, accountants, forming the corporation and securing venture capital (for which I have little collateral). Finally, I plan to open the store by August 1st, at the latest.

The VA is being cool about it, from who I talked to, and they're going to arrange my loans, as well as look for grants for which I might be able to apply. I also need someone to build and run the website, write a Purchase OS for my registers (or I can use some Microsoft shit), and to streamline things so that I can simply walk into the store in the morning, check my internet sales from over the past day, and ship everything out in the morning.

This will probably be a one-man show for a month or so, then I'll be expanding staff to enough clerks and management to keep the store open 24/7 (if the state will allow it). I'll be aiming the business primarily at truck drivers, as truckers are the reason many adult businesses stay afloat (that and the 200-1200% markup). That doesn't mean I won't be trying to appeal to locals, but the majority of people in the area are more likely to picket a porn store than puruse the merchandise.

The people are going to be a problem I'm willing to stare down, and if the business is successful enough, buy them off to shut the fuck up. I'm setting limits on how much I will actually profit from all of this, and a percentage of the company profits will go as donations to some organizations which I feel strongly about (American Diabetes Association and Marijuana Policy Program). To top it off, if it makes enough money in the first place, in the future I'll be forking over cash to donate land for a school, park, whatever, to keep people from bitching about how the company does nothing for the community. That also makes for a nice tax write-off.

This is all jumble-fucked inside my head right now and I really don't know how to go about starting this kind of project. Does anyone have experience with starting a company? Can someone give me pointers?

I'm meeting with the owner of one adult company tomorrow and possibly with another (at a strip club, no less) on friday night. I might even look into the idea of franchising, but I'd rather keep this my business, and not have to deal with a corporation above me.

Short of that, I'm taking name suggestions as well. I was thinking something like "Forbidden Fruit" or "Tree of Knowledge" with "Adult" mixed in somewhere, but that'd just be poking too damn much fun at religion and I'd probably catch shit about it from the city and all the local church nuts (fuck them anyhow).

So, seriously now, does anyone have any advice?
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Reply 1 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 12:34:10 PM)
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Go to all the adult stores in your general area, maybe like 25 mile radius, and check their prices for some typical items. If you can't beat those prices and still make enough money to make the endeavour worth it, find a new market. I assume there is an established adult industry in your area such that politics won't be a bitch?
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Reply 2 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 01:03:02 PM)
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Good luck. You should also sell beer, it would save a lot of guys an extra stop I bet.


edit: frozen pizzas would probably be a money maker as well
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Reply 3 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 01:38:44 PM)
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I assume there is an established adult industry in your area such that politics won't be a bitch?


I can beat prices, but local politics are crazy when it comes to the adult market. The current state laws say no adult business shall operate within 1000 feet of a church, school, government facility, or cemetary. That's the second reason I want to put the store on the interstate, because there are none of those hassles within 1000 feet of I-24 in my area. Right now the only adult store in town, which just opened last year, is in a legal battle because of a dance school, which is 1500 feet away from the store, but parents of students are being peksy asshats and want them to move.

As far as the market, have you ever been in an adult store? The average feature movie costs about 1/3 of what the customer pays, and that's not including the 4 hour film bundles that wholesale sites offer for about $2 a disc, which can be marked up to $10-15, and will sell like ice in the desert. Vibrators and other toys are usually marked up around 400%, but that varies greatly on what wholesaler you go through. I have connections to work with on getting magazines, mag packs, soft goods (toys, novelties, etc), and getting a DVD wholesaler is as simple as looking it up through Google.

I'm also trying to think of promotions for this place when it first opens. I like the idea of 10% discounts for first time customers, but that could be problematic with people coming in on different shifts to get discounts through other clerks. Also, clerks are going to be a bastard to keep in line. There is truly no shortage of people who want to work in the adult retail field, but getting good ones is the tricky part. I won't be low-balling employees either, but benefits are something that'll be hard for me to handle right off, so I probably won't provide health/dental/etc insurance, which would require me to write that up in the employment agreement paperwork.

Speaking of clerks, and their concerns, I won't have a strict dress code. Nor will I do an initial drug test. People from alternative lifestyles will be accepted just as regular straight folks, and if a customer or another employee has a problem with it, harassment charges tend to make problems like that disappear quickly. Speaking legally, pandering is another problem to be addressed. It's all too easy for an employee to say, "I sell a lot of these and have heard good feedback about X product" instead of saying, "I have/used X product and it's great blah blah". Pandering laws are a consistent problem, and one I really don't want to cross lines on.

I will be keeping a lawyer on retainer throughout the entire endeavor. It's not only wise to do this, but it's practically a necessity. What with the theft rate in adult stores, constant harassment from local establishments (churches, conservative based businesses and local government).

Also, the mention above in the first post about limiting my profit, I probably should expand a bit more on that. I want to keep a tight-knit trustworthy crew on board, and that means more than lining my pockets with all the profits. Clerks will obviously start out with next to nothing, $8-9 an hour. My webmaster and other staff will all be on a salary base, which is going to be determined after expenses (rent, bills, inventory, etc). I don't want to put myself in a place where I'm hurting for staff, so the people working with me will see equal compensation. The person I have in mind for my assistant will be sitting in the store management position, and I'd probably start him off around $600/week salary with an overtime program so that he's not working 60 hours one week, then 40 the next, and not seeing any compensation for his extra work. I'll also offer a 50% employee discount (off retail, so it's still over wholesale price), but that'll only be available after 90 days and will have strict guidelines (no friends and family discounting over 10% retail).

Basically, if my store manager is making $30k a year, that's the same I'll be making until I can expand and see profit from two or three stores. I'll also offer employee bonuses, probably like a christmas fund or something.

I know it sounds like I'm not making room for all the expenses I'll have to account for, but really, it's very easy to see $60k-$100k a month in the adult business with just one store. Local controversy is practically free advertisement, but I'll have to shell out the cash for a few billboards and proper signage, as well as advertising in local periodicals and newspapers. I plan on working with other businesses on this as well, with a referral based program. This means printing up discount cards and flyers for distribution at bars, clubs, headshops, and other adult oriented businesses.

Customers are still going to be the number one priority. Requests will be taken, product will be able to be placed on hold (for certain time lengths), and the store will be lined with security cameras like crazy to keep them in check. That also means cameras hidden outdoors to capture plate numbers of shoplifters and other crime stirring indigents. I'm not going to watch my place get ripped off blind by crackheads and fucknuts looking for a quick endorphin bump.

With everything I've seen from the inside of the adult retail world, I know that it's easy to make the money in the business, you just have to do the legwork to get it started. I'm more than motivated to do 80-90 hours a week to get this place going, because I know that after it's up, running, and profitable, I'll be able to take the time off and enjoy myself again, relax, and cut stress down. I've got partners lined up for this, mostly family but a friend or two thrown in for good measure, so balancing the operations on a day to day basis will be easier, especially when I can trust everyone running the show with me.

It's a challenge, and that's what I'm looking for. I'm sick of just being the guy sitting behind the counter, and I'm also fucking tired of bringing nothing home after paying bills. I'm clearheaded (quit daily pot smoking a few weeks ago), I'm focused, young and energetic. Now all I need is the financial bump to start this off and keep from running it into the ground.
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Reply 4 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 04:04:45 PM)
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Short of that, I'm taking name suggestions as well. I was thinking something like "Forbidden Fruit" or "Tree of Knowledge" with "Adult" mixed in somewhere, but that'd just be poking too damn much fun at religion and I'd probably catch shit about it from the city and all the local church nuts (fuck them anyhow).

Can they actually touch you, or just make noise? If it's the latter, definitely go for it. Free publicity is always good, especially if you're starting in the business.
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Reply 5 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 04:20:07 PM)
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Starting a business... This thread is exciting, starting a business was a dream of mine since I was a little kid. Keep us updated, i'm loving reading this.

Only problem I see is in explaining to your girlfriend's mom what it is you do.
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Reply 6 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 05:38:15 PM)
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Only problem I see is in explaining to your girlfriend's mom what it is you do.


In a greedy, success-oriented culture such as ours, what could be more positive than an entrepreneurial business tycoon?

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Reply 7 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 07:25:57 PM)
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take a bis course from the local community college. cover management, economics etc give you some footing to run with.
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Reply 8 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 09:20:32 PM)
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Only problem I see is in explaining to your girlfriend's mom what it is you do.


In a greedy, success-oriented culture such as ours, what could be more positive than an entrepreneurial business tycoon?

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Reply 9 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-02-07 09:30:44 PM)
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You could have a membership card or a punch card for frequent customers if you're considered about discount abuse.

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I don't see how you can start any brick and mortar business without at least $20k in the bank. Most new businesses go years before making a profit, if they ever do make a profit.

Starting a business has been something of a dream of mine as well, but I just don't see how to make profit if I actually have a store front.
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Reply 11 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-03-07 07:07:33 AM)
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Vigourously enjoying this thread. I was planning on getting myself an education degree with a couple of biz courses first, work hard during school, and then work a few/several years teaching as I accumulated funds and took a couple more biz coures (maybe even a degree, to make me more "legit") before I tried anything like this, but it's a cool dream and nice to see you accomplishing it.

keep.. us posted.

hhahaha actually I just realized I have a friend who is a bum who makes websites for money who would totally do this, but because he is homeless I don't think he really charges highly or anything. Er.. this kind of sounds like I'm advertising for my friend here, but I really meant this more for your own benefit. I guess there's hardly a dearth of coding savvy people on INTL, of all places.
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Reply 12 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-03-07 08:23:23 AM)
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The time has come for me to get off my lazy ass and do something, and I finally decided on that last night. I'm opening my own adult store

Haha.

That is so cool.

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In a greedy, success-oriented culture such as ours, what could be more positive than an entrepreneurial business tycoon?

In a superstitious fear-mongering culture such as yours, parents tend to be hysterical idiots.

As is demonstrated by that dance-school example.
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Reply 13 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-03-07 03:08:32 PM)
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Just don't rush into anything before you have a proper business plan. Once you do all the math, it may very well turn out to be less profitable than you think. Or it may turn out to be more profitable. Point is, don't invest before you know how long will it take for the investment to pay off and what kind of return you can expect from it.

Plenty of people have run themselves into the ground by failing to have a proper and realistic business plan.
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Reply 14 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-03-07 03:50:56 PM)
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Don't get too ahead of yourself before you finish your business plan. You should be able to find a tutorial online that guides you through it. All my sources are in text books and they're Australian orientated.

Actually, I can send you a (fictional) one I did if it will help you get your mind around the structure of a plan better. I don't think it's that great but at least the contents page will help you.

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Reply 15 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-04-07 12:47:24 AM)
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Only problem I see is in explaining to your girlfriend's mom what it is you do.
Not if they're both strippers at the local dive.


But seriously, don't start a business without knowing exactly where you want to end up and knowing the trials and tribulations involved in getting you there. Ety is right in saying that most businesses take years to turn a profit and more often than not, never do.

Also, while it may be easy to see "$60k-$100k a month in the adult business with just one store," how much are you paying each month in rent, utilities, taxes, wages, and cost of the product you sell? Probably the same $60k-$100k a month, if not more.

I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just saying that after taking my Econ class, while I don't profess myself to be an expert at running businesses by any means, but I can say that there is a lot of things to look out for being a first-time business owner and that you should definitely do a lot of research and inquiry into the day-to-day operations in both short-run and long-run of running a business before you jump in head first.


Also, you should name it The Jesus Hole.
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I would work for you.
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Reply 17 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-04-07 06:05:59 AM)
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Reply 18 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-04-07 07:27:12 AM)
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Definitely make a business plan and a market survey.
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Reply 19 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-04-07 08:11:00 AM)
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or call it The Holy Trinity, and your logo is jesus and josef double-teaming mary lol am i rite??? all ur base r belong 2 us
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Reply 20 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-06-07 06:52:01 PM)
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Wow, that was the only good advice in the entire thread +k
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Bumping for update / because I thought the name "Poles 'n' Holes" was great.
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Reply 23 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-23-07 05:30:17 PM)
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That sounds cool, but don't try it unless you're the hard-nosed type. My dad has been trying to run a business for years but since he lets the customers walk all over him, it's my mom that supports the family.

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Reply 24 of 26 (Originally posted on: 05-23-07 07:21:57 PM)
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Where are you located? I print a magazine that within the next coming months will sell around 100 every month (we're finally getting serious about printing them) and hopefully double that if we get the advertisers. We've got advertising space and don't really have a 'do not allow to advertise' list.
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