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(Originally posted on: 10-02-06 12:49:55 PM)
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/02/amish.shooting.ap/index.html

Quoted from CNN:
NICKEL MINES, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A gunman killed six people at a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday morning in Pennsylvania's bucolic Lancaster County, and several others were taken to hospitals with injuries, authorities said.

"So far, six confirmed dead, and the helicopters are pulling into (Lancaster General Hospital) like crazy," Coroner G. Gary Kirchner said.

It was unclear if the shooter was among the six. State Police Cpl. Ralph Striebig said earlier that the shooter was dead. (Watch helicopter video from the scene of the shooting -- 1:00 )

Three girls, all in critical condition with gunshot wounds, were admitted to Lancaster General Hospital, spokesman John Lines told WGAL-TV.

Officials at the Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center confirmed that victims also were being admitted there. A spokeswoman said the hospital anticipated more than one patient but did not know how many.

Police surrounded the one-room school late Monday morning, and the Lancaster County 911 Web site reported that dozens of emergency units were dispatched to a "medical emergency" at 10:45 a.m.

Two hours later, about three dozen people in traditional Amish clothing, hats and bonnets stood near the small school building speaking to one another, several young people and authorities.

At least two ambulances had left the scene, and at least one person was taken on a stretcher to a medical helicopter.


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PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A 32-year-old truck driver walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday, binding and shooting three girls execution-style before killing himself, police said.

Eight other girls were wounded in the attack, which police said appeared to be a revenge killing for an incident that occurred two decades ago.

"It would take a miracle for us to not lose more lives today," said Commissioner Jeffrey Miller of the Pennsylvania State Police, adding that the wounded were in critical condition -- two of them "very dire." (Watch how the gunman got in and what he did -- 7:44 Video)

The attack was the nation's third deadly school shooting in a week.

The gunman, Charles Carl Roberts IV, was armed with three guns, a stun gun, two knives and a bag holding 600 rounds of ammunition, Miller said.

He was also carrying an assortment of tools and other items, including toilet paper, that led police to believe he was prepared for an extended standoff.

"It seems as though he wanted to attack young female victims, and this is close to his residence. That's the only reason we can figure that he went to the school," said Miller. (Read Miller's dramatic account)

"It's a horrendous crime scene," he said.

The shooting took place in Lancaster County, about 60 miles west of Philadelphia, at a school run by the Amish community. There were 26 students in the school Monday, 11 of them girls. (Watch police investigate shooting scene -- 1:00)

The school teaches students ranging from 6 to 13, with some older students working as teachers' aides. Two students and an aide were dead at the scene, with one girl dying in a state trooper's arms, Miller said.

The wounded girls were taken to several hospitals in the central Pennsylvania area, some of them with gunshot wounds to the head.

Roberts drove a commercial milk truck, said Miller. He was not Amish, was not previously wanted by authorities and had no known criminal history.

The Bart, Pennsylvania, resident had three children, and left several notes for his family "along the lines of suicide notes," Miller said.

The notes were "rambling" and "didn't make much sense," Miller said.

Roberts did not respond when police at the scene attempted to communicate with him, and troopers were preparing to storm the schoolhouse before the shooting began, Miller said.

Roberts' wife tried to call him when she found the notes, Miller said. He returned the call on his cell phone, told her he wouldn't be coming home and "that he was acting out to achieve revenge for something that happened 20 years ago."

The suspect called 911 and "made a declaration that if the state police didn't leave the property he would start shooting people within 10 seconds."

"Within seconds, he just started firing in rapid succession."

Police then stormed the schoolhouse through the windows and found Roberts dead, Miller said. He had fired at least one shotgun blast at police.
Gunman let boys go

The commissioner said Roberts had worked a shift that ended about 3 a.m. Monday and taken his children to their bus stop before beginning his rampage.

Police said he had barricaded himself in the schoolhouse with two-by-four and two-by-six pieces of lumber, which he brought to the scene in a borrowed pickup truck.

"He did a great deal of planning," Miller said. "It appears that he intended to be prepared for a lengthy siege."

Miller said that during the attack, Roberts apparently told students to line up in front of the blackboard. He began to tie his female captives' feet together. He let the 15 boys in the classroom leave.

Miller said Roberts also allowed an adult female who was pregnant to leave with three other adult females who had infant children with them.

The teacher who was released was able to alert authorities, Miller said.

"Apparently, there was some sort of an issue in his past that for some reason, he wanted to exact revenge against female victims. That's all I can tell you right now," Miller said.

Miller said Roberts' grudge did not appear to involve the Amish community and that he may have chosen his target out of convenience, perhaps thinking "getting into a school like this was maybe just a little bit easier."

A man who said he was a friend of the Roberts family, Dwight Lefever, read a statement attributed to the gunman's wife, Marie Roberts, according to CNN affiliate WGAL.

"The man that did this today was not the Charlie I've been married to for almost 10 years. My husband was loving, supportive, thoughtful. All the things you'd always want and more. He was an exceptional father," the statement said.

"Our hearts are broken, our lives are shattered, and we grieve for the innocents and lives that were lost today. Above all, please pray. Pray for the families who lost children today, and please pray, too, for our family and children."

Lancaster County's 911 Web site reported dozens of emergency vehicles -- including at least nine ambulances -- were dispatched to Bart Township shortly before 11 a.m. for a "medical emergency." The Lancaster County emergency communications Web site showed 20 incident calls listed to the normally quiet Bart Township at 10:48 a.m.

Shortly after the attack, men, women and girls in traditional Amish clothing gathered in small groups outside the country schoolhouse along a dirt road. Horse-drawn carriages could be seen in a nearby parking lot.

The school is one of about 150 that serve the Amish population of about 200,000, said Donald Kraybill, a sociology professor at nearby Elizabethtown College.

"They typically are one-room facilities operated by Amish parents," Kraybill said. "There usually are not any security concerns or security risks in the schools, so this is quite a shock."

Aaron Meyer, who owns a buggy company in the nearby village of Bird in Hand, said the largely rural Amish country had experienced nothing like the crime in the 25 years he has lived in the area.

"Many of these townships there have no police at all, because there's no crime," Meyer told CNN.

On Wednesday, a 53-year-old man entered a high school in Bailey, Colorado, where he held several female students hostage at gunpoint. He shot one girl before killing himself seconds after a SWAT team stormed the classroom.

A high school student near Madison, Wisconsin, is suspected of fatally gunning down his principal on Friday, after he complained about being bullied and was disciplined for carrying tobacco.


It's kinda funny, admit it.

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Reply 1 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 01:22:34 PM)
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Surprising maybe, funny no.
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Reply 2 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 01:28:23 PM)
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Okay, so it's not funny to those not cynical. They're saying at least 6 dead now. Supposedly a gunman walked in, he's dead also according to what CNN is saying now.

Now if it was amish on amish violence with muzzleloaders/muskets, then it would be funny.
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Reply 3 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 01:43:59 PM)
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so they guy that was shooting was amish or no? I'm cynical, so if it was an amish guy I'm ROFL..... otherwise that guy should get the chair.
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Reply 4 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 02:03:03 PM)
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What will the media do? Blaming it on rock music and videogames will be a bit difficult this time.
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Reply 5 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 02:45:20 PM)
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Too much time playing marbles behind the shed, not enough barn raising is what I'm blaming this on.
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Reply 6 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 02:50:19 PM)
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Ok, I hate to demonstrate my extreme religious ignorance, but can someone give me a quick tl;dr summary on the Amish faith.

PS - These school shootings are disgusting and the media is definitely helping with copy-cat crimes by giving these sick fucks so much attention.
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Reply 7 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 03:23:04 PM)
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Amish don't believe in using technology unless absolutely necessary. They're a pretty strict and closed Anabaptist sect. They live like it's the 18th Century. Genetic diseases among them are pretty common, since they don't marry outside of the faith. Uh. That's all I know. Oh, and they speak a dialect of German.
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Reply 8 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 03:24:25 PM)
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What will the media do? Blaming it on rock music and videogames will be a bit difficult this time.

Hahahaha, comedy.

Maybe the Amish were thinking "Hey, even Quebec is doing it, maybe we ARE behind the times..."
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Reply 9 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:04:11 PM)
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I would like to quote wierd al, it looks like those poor souls will be "living in amish paradise" now. Its a good song too, i heard some rapper stole it from him tho. wtf.
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Reply 10 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:10:07 PM)
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I would like to quote wierd al, it looks like those poor souls will be "living in amish paradise" now. Its a good song too, i heard some rapper stole it from him tho. wtf.
uh...weird al parodied it from gangsta's paradise.

Kinda fucked up when you go to school worrying about a zit you couldn't pop and then BAM you're dead. I just wonder how the amish community will deal with security issues in their schools because of the no-technology thing. It could get difficult.
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Reply 11 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:14:49 PM)
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Quoted from Hoff:
I would like to quote wierd al, it looks like those poor souls will be "living in amish paradise" now. Its a good song too, i heard some rapper stole it from him tho. wtf.
uh...weird al parodied it from gangsta's paradise.

Wrong.
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Reply 12 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:16:10 PM)
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Did he shoot the people with a bow and arrows?
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Reply 13 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:23:20 PM)
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Quoted from Hoff:
Quoted from Aaron:
Quoted from Hoff:
I would like to quote wierd al, it looks like those poor souls will be "living in amish paradise" now. Its a good song too, i heard some rapper stole it from him tho. wtf.
uh...weird al parodied it from gangsta's paradise.

Wrong.
Rly? Weird. If thats true then it makes that song and gansta's paradise 10x more hilarious.
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Reply 14 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:29:29 PM)
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Quoted from Hoff:
Quoted from Aaron:
Quoted from Hoff:
I would like to quote wierd al, it looks like those poor souls will be "living in amish paradise" now. Its a good song too, i heard some rapper stole it from him tho. wtf.
uh...weird al parodied it from gangsta's paradise.

Wrong.

http://www.weirdal.com/parodypolkas.htm

maybe you should shoot weird al an email because he seems to be confused about the origin of his own song
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Reply 15 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 04:31:32 PM)
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*sigh* Did any of you actually read about this?

An Amish guy did not do the shooting. It was some milk truck driver that had issues with women. He invaded the schoolhouse, separated the people by gender, and let the guys go. He then proceeded to execute the females.

And then offed himself.
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Reply 16 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 05:29:39 PM)
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These poor fucking kids.

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Reply 17 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 05:42:05 PM)
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Quoted from Adam:
Ok, I hate to demonstrate my extreme religious ignorance, but can someone give me a quick tl;dr summary on the Amish faith.



Jesus-loving technophobes, wikipedia.org.

Quoted from IF0:

An Amish guy did not do the shooting. It was some milk truck driver that had issues with women. He invaded the schoolhouse, separated the people by gender, and let the guys go. He then proceeded to execute the females.


"Issues with women" puts it rather mildly, I'd say.

Quoted from BBC:

The attack happened at a school for children aged six to 13.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5400570.stm



Blame it on the milkman, eh.
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Reply 18 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:16:42 PM)
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I wish he would've said what it was that caused him to freak.
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Reply 19 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:17:58 PM)
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And I was just joking about the wierd al thing, dont you ppl know sarcasm?
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Reply 20 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:19:15 PM)
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I bet the milkman worked for Phonak.

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Reply 21 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:22:31 PM)
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Quoted from unterhosen:
Quoted from Hoff:
Quoted from Aaron:
Quoted from Hoff:
I would like to quote wierd al, it looks like those poor souls will be "living in amish paradise" now. Its a good song too, i heard some rapper stole it from him tho. wtf.
uh...weird al parodied it from gangsta's paradise.

Wrong.

http://www.weirdal.com/parodypolkas.htm

maybe you should shoot weird al an email because he seems to be confused about the origin of his own song

No shit guys, he was fucking kidding. But thanks for the weird al url.



As for the Amish, they crowd up the roadways with their horse and buggy's when driving through lancaster county and the horses sometimes leave big turds in the middle of the road, but usually they have buckets on their asses.
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Reply 22 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:50:26 PM)
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You know, a lack of compassion and empathy for others is one of the defining characteristics of a psychopath. I remember back when I first joined there was a big discussion with Drah about whether he was correct in labelling himself a psychopath, but really when a story like this breaks and all some people can do is crack jokes on the internet, it really illuminates for me what worthless sacks of shit the majority of our race really are.

Nobody is perfect, least of all me, but the amount of people who present information like this online and instantly crack an Amish joke or find it amusing first, whatever else second really disgusts me. The internet, it's great..but we exist in it's lowliest ghetto, never doubt it.

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Reply 23 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:56:37 PM)
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For the record, what I said about the amish wasn't a joke. I live 45 minutes away from Lancaster County (Amish Country, where this happened), and that was just some first-person info about the Amish, however useless it may be.
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Reply 24 of 95 (Originally posted on: 10-02-06 06:57:31 PM)
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It's just our way of coping with pain. And with boredom. Don't forget about boredom.
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