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(Originally posted on: 04-21-06 04:31:19 PM)
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Ok am I missing something? If I am, please inform me. But the movie and I guess the broadway show too, really pisses me off. I didnt mind the songs, even tho I didnt find them to be all that good.

What pissed me off is how everyone in the movie thinks they shouldnt have to pay rent. They even go off in this crazy song how they are never gonna pay rent ever again. All of them are capabable of getting jobs, they just dont think they should have to. The one guy finally does get a job, but believes he is selling out. Bullshit. Somehow their friend, how became succesful screwed them over and nobody has to pay rent ever again. WTF is that, yes you have to pay rent dammit! Everyone has to pay rent. If you dont want to pay rent, go live in the woods or something i dont care, but dont live in an apartment and think you should never pay rent.

I just could not sympthasize with the characters. Half the movie was about how they were getting screwed over by having to pay rent. NO! You have to pay or get out! OMG, it drove me nuts.

So am I missing something? Please let me know, cuz I really hated that movie because of this reason.
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Reply 1 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-21-06 04:40:33 PM)
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I think it's because it was written by hippies, for hippies.
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Reply 2 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-21-06 05:09:57 PM)
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You missed the part where everyone had AIDS, automatically making them more important than normal folk.
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Reply 4 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-21-06 08:03:04 PM)
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haha yea thats true. Ever see the movie "team america" where they make fun of rent. "every one has aids!" its so funny.
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Reply 5 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-21-06 11:14:54 PM)
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haha yea thats true. Ever see the movie "team america" where they make fun of rent. "every one has aids!" its so funny.
I was thinking the exact same thing, man.
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Reply 6 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-22-06 12:56:20 AM)
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They obviously could never get away with this too.

All I can think of is Eddie Murphy crawling out onto the fire escape in "Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood," as the landlord screams at the door for the rent.
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Reply 7 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-22-06 12:00:59 PM)
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Quoted from Aaron:
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haha yea thats true. Ever see the movie "team america" where they make fun of rent. "every one has aids!" its so funny.
I was thinking the exact same thing, man.

It's the reason I can never watch the movie or the show with a straight face.
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Reply 8 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-22-06 10:42:51 PM)
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Granted Rent isn't a great musical, but the point of the characters not paying rent is because they are attempting to live 'la vie boheme,' only to find that by doing so, it's not necessarily helping their situation. But then, apparently living the bohemian life is all based on love anyway... right.
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Reply 9 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-22-06 10:48:28 PM)
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Granted Rent isn't a great musical, but the point of the characters not paying rent is because they are attempting to live 'la vie boheme,' only to find that by doing so, it's not necessarily helping their situation. But then, apparently living the bohemian life is all based on love anyway... right.


Well that makes it better i guess. But it still bothers me. oh well. I love, love.
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Reply 10 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-23-06 12:57:38 AM)
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Well, also one of the reasons they refuse to pay rent is because the character of Benny promised they wouldn't have to, and then reneged on the deal....
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Reply 11 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-23-06 01:06:07 AM)
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Well, also one of the reasons they refuse to pay rent is because the character of Benny promised they wouldn't have to, and then reneged on the deal....


yes, but he owns the place so he has the right to make them pay. And even if he said you dont have to pay rent this year, in their song they said they are never going to pay rent. It was just ridiculous to think that you never have to pay rent. They should be thanking that guy for allowing them to live there for free for as long as he did.
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Reply 12 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 04:00:18 AM)
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This sounds as a very stupid premise for a musical.
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Reply 13 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 06:30:43 AM)
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musical.


I've never seen a good musical.

Rent was entertaining, that's it. It's not something I'd spend money on.

Edit: The character I identified with was their buddy who was trying to raze tent city to build a studio.
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Reply 14 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 06:40:13 AM)
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I've seen a couple (good musicals) but that might be because they were local and I knew a lot of the people acting in them.

Isn't The Rocky Horror Picture Show considered a musical? Oh also Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Two awesome musicals.
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Reply 15 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 08:05:30 AM)
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Rocky was awesome, yeah, and what I've seen of Hedwig was pretty damned good too.

I saw Les Mis on Broadway back in high school, and that was just brilliant.

I also enjoy Tommy, Hair, and Jesus Christ Superstar.

As for Rent, I've only seen the last half of it and heard the soundtrack a couple times, so I'm not in a great position to judge it.

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Reply 16 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 12:42:55 PM)
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I am also a fan of Jesus Christ Superstar, and... yeah, Grease. And Chicago!

Haven't seen Rent though, play or movie :/
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Reply 17 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 12:53:37 PM)
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Hedwig and the Angry Inch.


Agreed, but Hedwig is rock opera.
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Reply 18 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 12:54:23 PM)
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Hair vs. Rent vs. Godspell vs. Stomp
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Reply 19 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 02:22:20 PM)
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Hedwig and the Angry Inch.


Agreed, but Hedwig is rock opera.


A rock opera is a musical.
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Reply 20 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 02:43:24 PM)
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musical.


Rent was entertaining, that's it. It's not something I'd spend money on.




And isn't that ironic!
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Reply 21 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 04:48:48 PM)
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I remember catching Cats on Pbs. Falling asleep halfway through all I can remember was waking up as the credits began and thinking, 'Yay!'.

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Reply 22 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 07:51:24 PM)
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Man, I'm a dramafag - I really like performing and theatre and musical theatre and all that - but Cats is just plain awful. I really don't like that show. Sure, the dancing is impressive and the lighting on the DVD (which I saw some of at school) is fantastic, but the show and music are crap.

Rent (I've only seen it on stage) has some good music (Seasons of Love was really, really well done. Holy crap), and the moral thing about "measure in love" and "live for today" message stuff is cool enough, but for goodness sake they've all got AIDS. It doesn't mean they're better then everyone else. I should write a musical called "Mortgage" and make it about a bunch of cancer patients who decide to stop contributing to society and think only of themselves.

Godspell is (for the most part) boring. Flat out. "Hey, here's the parables of the Bible in musical format." However, I did see this show and there was some funny stuff and Jesus was portrayed in a very positive light setting an example for humanity et cetera et cetera. I wouldn't see it again, though.

Stomp is cool as hell, though. I love beats. I don't know why they're categorized in the same group as the musicals, because they're more of a musical group than anything. And they're good. What's the beef there?

Les Misrables, having been in the show, I really love it. Were I to watch it however, I think I'd enjoy it all the same. It's nearly opera, but there are some nice pieces of music and the characters are very well accentuated by their music. The message within it is very strong as well. I am speaking from a biased perspective, but it's a good show. The 10th anniversary special DVD with Colm Wilkinson as Jean Valjean and Philip Quast as Javert is worth seeing/listening to.

Rocky Horror Picture Show I have only seen in movie format. After two times through a mix of boredom and the stupid traditions surrounding all the crap that happens in the theatre made me never want to see it again.

Chicago was a good movie musical. I thought it was all fun and cool. At the very least it told a good story.

Jesus Christ Superstar succeeds, I think, because it's Judas' story, not Christ's. That's an interesting take on it. Some cool music, though.

I do not like Grease. What's the message there? "Change yourself for him." The music is awesomely fun, but the message just doesn't make it seem worthwile.

Maybe I'm a snob. Bucka bucka.

To add to the pot, Guys and Dolls is a pretty fun musical.
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Reply 23 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-25-06 07:58:38 PM)
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Yea, Grease is a really bad message. I remember being a little (negatively) stunned when i saw it.
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Reply 24 of 51 (Originally posted on: 04-26-06 02:40:01 AM)
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How old were you when you first saw it? Because all I remember is thinking the music was cool. The message, if any, totally escaped me.
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