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As of yet, due to certain restraints, I have yet to work on a working layout for INTL3, but one thing I do know is that INTL3 will not have the same layout as the existing INTL. In fact, you won't even have the same abilities that you currently have in customizing the color scheme. Instead, administrators will have the ability to create their own INTL skins for public use. Basically, this allows us to change the layout to make INTL look a bit more aesthetic, rather than having the same, unchangable layout, and merely being able to modify the colors and logo.

This threads purpose is to get some early ideas from you on what you'd like to see. If you know HTML and would like to create your own template and share it, here is the place for you to do so. However, even if you don't know HTML, you can still post here and give ideas or post references to other forums and voice your opinion on the concepts that others might have.

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move rate this thread button, and i think theres just too many buttons for each reply.

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I don't understand why the current one can't be cloned?

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I don't understand why the current one can't be cloned?

It can be, but it won't be the default, that's my point.

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Make that "Quick Reply" Hack I was telling you about...and maybe the chat box? You have alot of members, I think they would really like the chat box...lol

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I know this may be out of the question, but have you considered possibly making the forum in flash using Action Script? swf files arern't really that big, and the flash can communicate to php files on a server. Thus only the actual posts and stuff will get uploaded, and not the HTML code and all that stuff.

You can keep all the same php code, but instead of the php file printing out an HTML document, it will print out a list of varibles to send up to flash.

I have experiemented with this concept, and i was able to upload a list of arrays up to flash, and then use the data to construct a dynamic page.

ActionScript has the exact same syntax as Java, and has alot of good sites that you can go to for tutorials and help (in case you don't know any ActionScript.) You may find it too much work, i don't know how much free time you have. But i suspect that a Flash Forum could look pretty damn awesom, and save on bandwidth (possibly, depending how much bandwidth you use for just HTML. For instance, a thread at HG may only contain 5 letters, yet the size of the HTML file loaded is nearly 70KB because of all the javascript and html. If it were flash, it would just be a few bytes.

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Uhm. That sounds like a lot of pointless work for something that wouldn't even be that useful.

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Quoted from deadlydentures:
I know this may be out of the question, but have you considered possibly making the forum in flash using Action Script? swf files arern't really that big, and the flash can communicate to php files on a server. Thus only the actual posts and stuff will get uploaded, and not the HTML code and all that stuff.

You can keep all the same php code, but instead of the php file printing out an HTML document, it will print out a list of varibles to send up to flash.

I have experiemented with this concept, and i was able to upload a list of arrays up to flash, and then use the data to construct a dynamic page.

ActionScript has the exact same syntax as Java, and has alot of good sites that you can go to for tutorials and help (in case you don't know any ActionScript.) You may find it too much work, i don't know how much free time you have. But i suspect that a Flash Forum could look pretty damn awesom, and save on bandwidth (possibly, depending how much bandwidth you use for just HTML. For instance, a thread at HG may only contain 5 letters, yet the size of the HTML file loaded is nearly 70KB because of all the javascript and html. If it were flash, it would just be a few bytes.

It would NOT save on bandwidth; if anything it would make it more.

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And if you don't care, why all the violent attacks toward me for bringing it up?

Explain.

And if it looks hella sweet, is it still pointless. I think it would save on bandwidth, but i honestly don't know, i speculate that it would.

If you can explain how it wouldn't, i'd be interested. Flash movies really aren't that big anymore. And it only has to be dled once.

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deadly: make a php/mysql page and flash/mysql page of identical content, and benchmark em.

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1) Flash sites (forums) are much more difficult to modify (assuming sandy sells it)

2) More bandwidth

3) More work

4) Higher viewing requiriments

5) Only people who actually shelled out the big bucks for flash can edit it

6) It wouldn't be a liquid layout

7) I don't think itd look sweet after about 20 seconds of using it - page transitions piss me off.

8) Do you have any idea of how many variables a forum has?

9) No.

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i told you how i think it would have ALOT less bandwidth, numbnuts. Why don't you tell me why you think it will have more?

As far as being harder to edit, thats probably true, since swf files are compiled.

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8) Do you have any idea of how many variables a forum has?

Yes i do? Does that have any significance? No.

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you have to send each one to flash - that takes a while. All it will do is slow down the coding. And just because theres flash on top doesnt mean the server doesn't have to send you the actual forum content - it still does.

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perhaps you are just not understanding.

Take a look at the source of the HTML in a thread. Theres alot of HTML and Java there that has nothing to do with the contents of the thread. In fact, a thread with almost nothing is about 75 kb in length.

Uploading the varibles in flash will only send the data up. The usernames, the posts, ect. All of that. Thats all sent using HTML, but you won't be sending all the HTML and java up everything.

Thus alot of bandwidth is saved.

And its uploaded just like any other page is, only flash intercepts it and uses it.

Instead of being in HTML, it is a list of varibles and their contents.

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This argument is stupid.

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And then flash pushes it back - listen, ive been web designing for 5 years. IT TAKES MORE BANDWIDTH. Argument over.

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deadly, unless you can bring up some benchmarks proving otherwise, Chire's right.

If nothing else it will be a bitch to look at. The SQL commands still have to happen, the page processing still has to happen, the amount of data sent is still going to be the same. Throw in a Flash file and you've got more than you started with.

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And then flash pushes it back - listen, ive been web designing for 5 years. IT TAKES MORE BANDWIDTH. Argument over.

OMG, so have I. You'd think that if you'd been designing web sites for 5 years you might explain why it takes more bandwidth.

Perhaps its a stupid argument, it was just a thought.
I do know that it has been done, and it can be done, and it can look very nice.

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deadly, unless you can bring up some benchmarks proving otherwise, Chire's right.

On the contrary, i am right before Chire posts benchmarks, because i have ACTUALLY explained why it would take less bandwidth.

The downside would be that it wouldn't be easy to make and it would be hard to make mods for.

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DD:
Your idea sucks, honestly. Sandy wants to sell the source code, and not everyone would want a Flash forum. Additionally, load times are pretty moot at this point - INTL3 loads faster than I've ever seen before. Call me stupid, but I think the current way INTL3 is is just fine.

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This argument is stupid.

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