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The US Government is pretty fucking funny. Post funny stuff the government and it's representatives say and do! I'll start with some Republicans hating women:

Representative Darrell Issa Holds A Panel on "Religious Freedom" (ie women's reproductive rights) and doesn't have any women on the panel. Not only that, there are no Women witnesses!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/02/16/issa_s_first_panel_of_witnesses_on_contraception_hearings_included_no_women_.html

Sorry ladies! If you wanted control over your body and health you should have been born a man the way God intended.

Here's another one:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2012/feb/17/whos-foster-friess-and-why-he-santorums-big-headac/

Foster Friess, a major donor to Rick Santorum's campaign, told a very funny joke while discussing birth control where he implied that if women weren't such big sluts all the time, maybe they wouldn't NEED birth control. What a funny guy!
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Reply 1 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-18-12 07:02:43 AM)
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Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people.

Like, what the fuck.
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Reply 2 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-18-12 11:02:14 AM)
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Bill Maher was saying last night that he thinks Obama's team purposely opened up a discussion on this because he knew the republican nominees would jump all over it and make idiots of themselves. No idea how possible that is, but it was funny anyway.
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Reply 3 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-18-12 12:30:12 PM)
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Do any Republicans here lament the fact that their candidates have to try to seem as retarded as possible in order to win the nomination?
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Reply 4 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-18-12 01:48:56 PM)
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Do we have any republicans? We only have like 10 people left here and if I remember right I don't think any our more conservative leaning friends identify themselves as such.

Personally, I don't identify myself with either party but I do lament that as an American.
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Reply 5 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-18-12 03:25:13 PM)
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http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/pd9rv/congressman_cites_an_article_from_the_onion_as/

Fleming from Louisiana cited an article from the Onion as fact. It was hilarious. He is such a fucking clown shoe.
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Reply 6 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-18-12 07:15:12 PM)
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Do any Republicans here lament the fact that their candidates have to try to seem as retarded as possible in order to win the nomination?



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Reply 7 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-19-12 08:52:16 AM)
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Would you vote for whichever retard they pick, or would you consider voting for Obama or an independent?
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Reply 8 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-19-12 12:54:42 PM)
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Would you vote for whichever retard they pick, or would you consider voting for Obama or an independent?


meh.....


A part of me hopes that santorum goes down in ball of fire

both figuratively and literally
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Reply 9 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 01:53:01 AM)
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It's really appalling. The penetrative ultrasound bills are just so insulting, so fucking crass, it's just unbelievable. "You want an abortion? Well just hold still while we RAPE YOU WITH THIS ULTRASOUND MACHINE, this will only take a second"
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Reply 10 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 01:54:52 AM)
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But really I love reading each new development on the primary trail. When I saw that casino guy had donated another $10 million to Newt's campaign I actually cheered
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Reply 11 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 02:16:40 AM)
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Foster Friess, a major donor to Rick Santorum's campaign, told a very funny joke while discussing birth control where he implied that if women weren't such big sluts all the time, maybe they wouldn't NEED birth control. What a funny guy!


They aren't sluts?

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Do we have any republicans? We only have like 10 people left here and if I remember right I don't think any our more conservative leaning friends identify themselves as such.



I voted for McCain in 2008. Out of the new batch they got, I'd either pick Newt or that Santorum fellow. It's honestly not for either of their platforms, but for the type of personalities they both have. Newt is a Machiavellian with a knack for getting his way, and Santorum honestly believes he is doing the work of the Lord here on Earth. BOTH of them will be a huge thorn in the liberal agenda at work in this country and I'd rather see them in charge than 4-more-years of the "community organizer" from Chicago.

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It's really appalling. The penetrative ultrasound bills are just so insulting, so fucking crass, it's just unbelievable. "You want an abortion? Well just hold still while we RAPE YOU WITH THIS ULTRASOUND MACHINE, this will only take a second"


I think it's cute how you're appalled that they'd subject a woman to that while you have almost no regard for the life they are slaughtering inside her belly. You lefties are capable of the greatest moral acrobatics I have ever seen in my life.
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Reply 12 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 02:53:24 AM)
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Do you honestly think Gingrich or Santorum have any chance at all of beating Obama?
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Reply 13 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 03:07:33 AM)
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I honestly don't care if they do. I vote for the person that I think deserves to be president out of the lot of them, not the person that the media and talking heads claim is the "smart" choice.
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Reply 14 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 06:48:20 AM)
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Do you honestly believe someone who thinks they are doing the lord's work should be in charge of anything? Historically people who think they can do that are pretty reckless. If you're doing lord's work then whoever is actually employing you (the country) is taking a back seat.
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Reply 15 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 11:37:36 AM)
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Do you honestly believe someone who thinks they are doing the lord's work should be in charge of anything? Historically people who think they can do that are pretty reckless. If you're doing lord's work then whoever is actually employing you (the country) is taking a back seat.


Let's take a look at what the secular agenda has brought America over the past 40 years:

1. Abortion and 60 million "lost" people
2. A divorce rate higher than 50%
3. Political correctness enforced as low as kindergarten
4. The "War on Drugs"
5. Social and moral decay ad nauseum

Yeah, I think America could use a different wind in her sails.
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Reply 16 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 02:29:32 PM)
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Let's take a look at what the secular agenda has brought America over the past 40 years:

1. Abortion and 60 million "lost" people
2. A divorce rate higher than 50%
3. Political correctness enforced as low as kindergarten
4. The "War on Drugs"
5. Social and moral decay ad nauseum

Yeah, I think America could use a different wind in her sails.


You trollin.

1. The largest drop in the crime rate since WW2
2. Wonder how much this rate would drop if we left Newt out of the equation?
3. Teaching children respect: a secular agenda
4. The gipper: a secular president
5. This is something you see in ancient greek writings as well. Clearly, civilization has been on a downward spiral for four thousand years now.

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If you have a problem with large groups of people maybe it's not them.
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Reply 17 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 07:07:19 PM)
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Reply 18 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 08:23:39 PM)
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Let's take a look at what the secular agenda has brought America over the past 40 years:

1. Abortion and 60 million "lost" people
2. A divorce rate higher than 50%
3. Political correctness enforced as low as kindergarten
4. The "War on Drugs"
5. Social and moral decay ad nauseum

Yeah, I think America could use a different wind in her sails.


You trollin.

1. The largest drop in the crime rate since WW2
2. Wonder how much this rate would drop if we left Newt out of the equation?
3. Teaching children respect: a secular agenda
4. The gipper: a secular president
5. This is something you see in ancient greek writings as well. Clearly, civilization has been on a downward spiral for four thousand years now.

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They aren't sluts?


If you have a problem with large groups of people maybe it's not them.


1. Bullshit. The UCR is routinely distorted by misreporting and under reporting criminal activities. Look no further than the escalating violence along the border with Mexico and the gangs that are holed up in cities like New York and Los Angeles.
2. It'll keep going down because the culture that created it will still be in charge.
3. If you equate "respect" with fear-mongering over the "N-word" and indoctrinating kids into homosexuality, you have a pretty warped perception of what tolerance means.
4. 60's counter culture, not Ronald Reagan, can take credit for making drugs fashionable. If you really want to blame Reagan for tackling the drug problem in a futile way, that is reasonable. Not giving credit to the pot heads and miscreants who've warped millions of Americans into junkies is a little much.
5. Ancient Greece collapsed, bro. Incidently, most of their literature from the period after Alexander writes about empty temples, vapid and mandarin rulership, and a general collapse in civic virtue. It's not much unlike what was seen when Western Rome collapsed.

Guess what, our empire is next!
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Reply 19 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-20-12 11:06:53 PM)
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if you equate political correctness with indoctrinating kids into homosexuality, then lol.

As for empires rising and falling with their faiths, I don't disagree. However there are some problems with that in this conversation. The US is a baby empire. Compared to the examples you compare us with (and other good examples), we barely register. Secondly, the reason the faiths fall is because it becomes clear that they are absurd and foolish. Sorry, but I wont brainwash myself to protect it, don't think i'd be capable of it even if I wanted to. If the consequence of that is a fallen empire, i'm no more at fault than the people arrogantly clinging to it.

Here is a relevant quote from historian Will Durant from "Our Oriental Heritage," concluding a preliminary chapter about the moral function of religion in civilization. Copyright 1935.

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Hence a certain tension between religion and society marks the higher stages of every civilization. Religion begins by offering magical aid to harassed and bewildered men; it culminates by giving to a people that unity ofmorals and belief which seems so favorable to statesmanship and art; it ends by fighting suicidally in the lost cause of the past. For as knoledge grows or alters continually, it clashes with mythology and theology, which chane with geological leisureliness. Priestly control of arts and letters is then felt as a galling shackle or hateful barrier, and intellectual history takes on the character of a "conflict between science and religion." Institutions which were at first in the hands of the clergy, like law and punishment, education and morals, marriage and divorce, tend to escape from ecclesiastical control, and become secular, perhaps profane. The intellectual classes abandon the ancient theology and--after some hesitation--the moral code allied with it; literature and philosophy become anticlerical. The movement of liberation rises to an exuberant worship of reason, and falls to a paralyzing disillusionment with every dogma and every idea. Conduct, deprived of its religious supports, deteriorates into epicurean chaos; and life itself, shorn of consoling faith, becomes a burden alike to conscious poverty and to weary wealth. In the end a society and its religion tend to fall together, like body and soul, in a harmonious death. Meanwhile among the oppressed another myth arises, gives new form to human hope, new courage to human effort, and after centuries of chaos builds another civilization.


So if the road we're on now is another one of these civilization destroying loss of morals, it isn't about America specifically it's about all of Christian-centered Western Culture and it has been in a quickly spiraling decline for a long time. We're at the tail end of it, or at best, we're in the hearty middle way beyond a point of no return. If it's the dark ages you're longing for, then I don't believe even Rick Santorum is going to be able to take us there. And if he could, I think i'll take my chances with the forthcoming centuries of chaos.

edit: wow, that entire quote is displayed prominently on Duran't wikipedia page... I can't believe I just spent time trying to remember it, leafing through the 1000+ page book to find that paragraph and then typed it out when it's apparently a famous passage and could have just been copied and pasted..
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Reply 20 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-21-12 08:04:06 AM)
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Do we have any republicans? We only have like 10 people left here and if I remember right I don't think any our more conservative leaning friends identify themselves as such.

Personally, I don't identify myself with either party but I do lament that as an American.


I lean conservative and I hate pretty much all the Republican candidates. I'll be voting incumbent. The evil I know and all that.
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Reply 21 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-21-12 10:06:39 AM)
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60's counter culture, not Ronald Reagan, can take credit for making drugs fashionable. If you really want to blame Reagan for tackling the drug problem in a futile way, that is reasonable. Not giving credit to the pot heads and miscreants who've warped millions of Americans into junkies is a little much.


Man, hippies are terrible but not in the way you seem to think. Mostly because they grew up to be innefectual self centered ass holes. Anyway, what I really wanted to ask was if you had any evidence to back these claims up or if you're just making them because thats how you "feel".
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Reply 22 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-21-12 12:42:22 PM)
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Quoted from oirassiv:

4. 60's counter culture, not Ronald Reagan, can take credit for making drugs fashionable. If you really want to blame Reagan for tackling the drug problem in a futile way, that is reasonable. Not giving credit to the pot heads and miscreants who've warped millions of Americans into junkies is a little much.



That's just, like, your opinion, maaaaaan.

Drugs were popular before the 60s, some just didn't receive the attention they do now because they were either: A) undiscovered at the time or not yet synthesized, or B) weren't talked about or taken on as large of a social scale as they are now. Opium (and some of its' derivatives), weed, and cocaine have been around forever, and were even used illegitimately as medications in the latter 19th/early 20th centuries.

The drug war, however, was/is a spectacular waste of money that does almost nothing to curb the flow of drugs around the country or the use of them, incarcerates folks in private prisons as punishment, and ultimately costs the tax payer untold thousands of dollars to keep them there. Simple possession? Go directly to jail, do not pass go, judge collects dividends from private prison stock he owns. Prisons find reasons to keep people incarcerated longer, prisons charge states more money, judge collects more dividends.

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Reply 23 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-21-12 03:00:53 PM)
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Opium (and some of its' derivatives), weed, and cocaine have been around forever, and were even used illegitimately as medications in the latter 19th/early 20th centuries.


Man, opiates are a legitimate pain killer and are still used in extreme cases.
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Reply 24 of 71 (Originally posted on: 02-24-12 12:25:46 PM)
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I know this, but that's not to say that there weren't plenty of patent medicines using them for bullshit excuses they put on the label.
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