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(Originally posted on: 03-23-10 05:42:14 PM)
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Congrats on finally having some semblance of health care reform.

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Reply 1 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 05:44:04 PM)
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America is going to be destroyed by this unconstitutional move by Obamaski.
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Reply 2 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 06:05:45 PM)
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It's still not much though. Basically it's a bill to stop the health insurance industry from reaming people so thoroughly. They still managed to get their hooks into it, forcing people to buy health insurance.

What bugs me about the people complaining about it is that they say it's a waste of money, even though they are the same people who endorsed spending A TRILLION DOLLARS invading a country for no reason.
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Reply 3 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 06:09:36 PM)
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Reply 4 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 06:10:58 PM)
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Quoted from A.C. Slater:
It's still not much though. Basically it's a bill to stop the health insurance industry from reaming people so thoroughly. They still managed to get their hooks into it, forcing people to buy health insurance.

What bugs me about the people complaining about it is that they say it's a waste of money, even though they are the same people who endorsed spending A TRILLION DOLLARS invading a country for no reason.


And the same people that gave away billions of taxpayer dollars to the wealthiest CEOs in the country in the form of a bailout.
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Reply 5 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 06:47:18 PM)
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Well, Obama continued what Bush had started.
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Reply 6 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 07:54:26 PM)
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I knew sunny would be the one to post this thread because she loves America more than anyone else does.

Last night was when I really realised the bill the bill was not good because despite having different reasons, both ice and I think it's a the bill is a bad idea. That's how you know. learn u some stuff ok??
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Reply 7 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 07:57:55 PM)
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Your grammar, my lady, is absolutely horrendous.
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Reply 8 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 08:00:02 PM)
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yeah i have no idea what that message is supposed to mean

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Reply 9 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 08:02:47 PM)
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The repetition of 'the bill' is giving me bad flashbacks of Ted Stevens...
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Reply 10 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 08:05:37 PM)
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What the fuck did I just type? I meant:
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Last night was when I really realised the bill was not good because despite having different reasons, both ice and I think the bill is a bad idea. That's how you know. learn u some stuff ok??

but idk i could be drunk
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Reply 11 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-23-10 08:15:13 PM)
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too much yotube.ca

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Reply 12 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 08:15:04 AM)
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I have a yotube hangover MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS
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Reply 13 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 10:17:26 AM)
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This bill pisses me off. Probably for much the same reason it pisses ice off.

My only hope is that passing a bill with "Healthcare Reform" in the tile will make it easier to pass real reform in the future.

I'm not holding my breath though.
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Reply 14 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 10:25:21 AM)
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I support the open market for health insurance

the rest of this bill can suck a dick though
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Reply 15 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 01:04:21 PM)
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It's kind of ridiculous this is all the guy managed to get approved by his own party mates.
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Reply 16 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 01:15:39 PM)
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Quoted from Little Michelle:
It's kind of ridiculous this is all the guy managed to get approved by his own party mates.


It's important to remember that the democrats are perhaps even more involved in the medical industry then the republicans
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Reply 17 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 01:44:43 PM)
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That's not important. Unless every other First World country ever is also controlled by the same democrats?
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Reply 18 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 01:48:29 PM)
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I don't follow Sukkit. It's important to understand why this took so long even though everyone wanted it, and why it has so many concessions for the health insurance industry.
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Reply 19 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 01:53:16 PM)
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Oh, ok. I thought he was implying they had an interest in getting this passed.

Sorry, the whole controversy is so ridiculous I'm easily confused for cultural reasons or something.
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Reply 20 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 01:57:24 PM)
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Quoted from Dr. Huxtable:
This bill pisses me off. Probably for much the same reason it pisses ice off.

My only hope is that passing a bill with "Healthcare Reform" in the tile will make it easier to pass real reform in the future.

I'm not holding my breath though.
You are aware that just about every single progressive movement in this country has come in incremental steps over decades, right?

That's not to say that you're somehow wrong to be disappointed in the bill (hell, I'm disappointed in certain aspects of it, lack of a public option primarily). However, including something like the public option would have invariably been the death of this bill. Had this bill been defeated, it would have halted health care reform discussions for years to come: something which I don't feel is beneficial to anyone. Libertarians and conservatives would herald its defeat as nothing short of cheesy AMERICA HAS SPOKEN rhetoric, thus implicitly stating that AMERICANS HAVE PLUGGED THEIR EARS to continued debate on health care reform.

As far as continued reform, that's going to be largely up to whomever controls the government over the next couple decades. We could conceivably have legislation to create a public option and other various modifications to this bill within the next 10-15 years, should the reality of this bill be shown to improve peoples' lives and not turn us into a Maoist state.

Frankly, I think this bill is a step in the right direction, even though its admittedly incomplete and not entirely perfect.
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Reply 21 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 02:36:13 PM)
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As far as continued reform, that's going to be largely up to whomever controls the government over the next couple decades. We could conceivably have legislation to create a public option and other various modifications to this bill within the next 10-15 years, should the reality of this bill be shown to improve peoples' lives and not turn us into a Maoist state.



I actually think this bill may very well the opposite effect

we'll see I guess

*edit* which is not to say that people will be convinced that a health overhaul is Maoism, just that it will sour people in the future
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Reply 22 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 05:38:28 PM)
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we'll see I guess

Quite soon, since the reconciliation is already shaping up to be hairy.
Also, what's with people threatening Democratic politicians for voting for reform? Whether I agree or not with the bill, that is beyond petty and shameful.
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Reply 23 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-24-10 08:09:51 PM)
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You are aware that just about every single progressive movement in this country has come in incremental steps over decades, right?


Yes, I'm aware of how it works. It doesn't mean I have to like it.
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Reply 24 of 27 (Originally posted on: 03-25-10 08:27:20 AM)
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Quoted from Laura Ingalls:
Quoted from ASS MUTtza:
we'll see I guess

Quite soon, since the reconciliation is already shaping up to be hairy.
Also, what's with people threatening Democratic politicians for voting for reform? Whether I agree or not with the bill, that is beyond petty and shameful.


Maybe a bunch of people just want to get reamed by the Secret Service for a while?

But I'm going to make a bet, Republicans take back the house in November, pick up 6 seats in the senate
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