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(Originally posted on: 09-02-09 02:23:40 PM)
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Rather than posting the bill here in its entirety, I have posted a link to it.

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Quoted from The Bill's Official Summary:
Cybersecurity Act of 2009 - Directs the President to establish or designate a Cybersecurity Advisory Panel to advise the President. Defines "cyber" as:
(1) any process, program, or protocol relating to the use of the Internet or an intranet, automatic data processing or transmission, or telecommunication via the Internet or an intranet; and
(2) any matter relating to, or involving the use of, computers or computer networks. Directs the Secretary of Commerce to:
(1) develop and implement a system to provide cybersecurity status and vulnerability information regarding all federal information systems and networks managed by the Department of Commerce; and
(2) provide financial assistance for the creation and support of Regional Cybersecurity Centers for small and medium sized U.S. businesses. Requires the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) to establish cybersecurity standards for all federal government, government contractor, or grantee critical infrastructure information systems and networks. Makes NIST responsible for U.S. representation in all international cybersecurity standards development. Directs the Secretary to develop or coordinate a national licensing, certification, and recertification program for cybersecurity professionals and makes it unlawful to provide certain cybersecurity services without being licensed and certified. Requires Advisory Panel approval for renewal or modification of a contract related to the operation of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority. Requires development of a strategy to implement a secure domain name addressing system. Requires the National Science Foundation (NSF) to support specified types of research and to establish a program of grants to higher education institutions to establish cybersecurity testbeds. Amends the Cybersecurity Research and Development Act to expand the purposes of an existing program of computer and network security research grants. Requires the NSF to establish a Federal Cyber Scholarship-for-Service program. Requires NIST to establish cybersecurity competitions and challenges to recruit talented individuals for the federal information technology workforce and stimulate innovation. Requires the Department of Commerce to serve as the clearinghouse of cybersecurity threat and vulnerability information. Grants the Secretary access to all relevant data concerning such networks notwithstanding any law or policy restricting access. Directs the President to:
(1) develop and implement a comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy;
(2) on a quadrennial basis, complete a review of the cyber posture of the United States; and
(3) work with representatives of foreign governments to develop norms, organizations, and other cooperative activities for international engagement to improve cybersecurity. Requires the Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Commerce to submit to Congress an annual report on cybersecurity threats to and vulnerabilities of critical national information, communication, and data network infrastructure. Establishes a Secure Products and Services Acquisitions Board to review and approve high value products and services acquisition and establish validation standards for software to be acquired by the federal government.


This bill gives the President the power to completely deactivate the internet as he sees fit, pending the approval of a self appointed committee. My guess is that after seeing the Middle East's inability to keep the wraps on the protest of their election scandal, Obama decided we needed a fail safe.

Quoted from S773:
A proposed Senate bill would give President Obama emergency control of the Internet, potentially allowing him to shut down all online traffic by seizing private networks in the event of a “cyber-emergency.


Unfortunately cyber emergency is undefined in any context in this bill, thus giving him the ability to define it to suit his needs. Cyber emergency could mean pulling the plug on Twitter in the event of an internet protest. Cyber emergency could be pulling the plug on Infowars. Cyber emergency could mean pulling the plug on INTL because we are so badass he is losing steam in the popularity polls.

Say goodbye to our last true channel of free speech. In America we have true freedom and democracy as long as freedom and democracy are open to interpretation and do not interfere with big business or elitist goals for oligarchical control.

Edit: I forgot to add that this bill was introduced by Senator John Rockefeller.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order." — David Rockefeller


"...to shape a New World Order..." — Nelson Rockefeller


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Reply 1 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 02:26:29 PM)
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I love the internet.

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Reply 2 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 03:38:22 PM)
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We just got set up the bomb.
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Reply 3 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 05:29:41 PM)
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shit's still coming out about Bush and Cheney torturing people and detaining American citizens for years at a time and you're worried about a bill proposed by some idiot from West Virginia that isn't even out of committee yet?
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Reply 4 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 06:04:43 PM)
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Quoted from take it sleazy:
shit's still coming out about Bush and Cheney torturing people and detaining American citizens for years at a time and you're worried about a bill proposed by some idiot from West Virginia that isn't even out of committee yet?


Did I say that Ice?

The Misadventures of Bush and Cheney are old hat at this point - not to say that prosecuting them isn't important, but the purpose of this thread was to show new legislation.

I do find this bill very disturbing, as should you.
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Reply 5 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 06:36:15 PM)
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I do find this bill very disturbing, as should you.


Ice's opinion about our president and your criticism of him can be easily summed up in this, Nickolati:


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Reply 6 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 06:45:58 PM)
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Vader eventually threw the Emperor down a tube full of force lightning and death. I'll take it.
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Reply 7 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 07:15:22 PM)
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The internet is a series of tube. Ipso facto, the only way to stop obama is by throwing him down the internet. Am I right, or am I right?
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Reply 8 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 07:15:59 PM)
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First computer manufacturers were going to be forced to make them into glorified playback machines, then ISPs were going to sell how fast a sight loads to the highest bidder, and now this. None of it happened or will.
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Reply 9 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 07:29:43 PM)
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Yeah, the thing is that this bill will never make it out of committee. My opinion of this bill is unrelated to my opinion of Obama. In fact it's pretty dumb to even associate Obama with this bill, he didn't propose it or write it or anything.
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Reply 10 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 07:40:32 PM)
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I'm shocked it took until post 5 for Obama to be mentioned, and slightly more shocked that it took ice until post 9 to start defending him.
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Reply 11 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 08:01:32 PM)
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Ice is just a pretentious hippy.

I literally would have to give my life to defend Obama; all he has to do is lick his ass hole on an anonymous Internet board and in his stylish clique of liberal friends.
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Reply 12 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 08:42:29 PM)
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Quoted from take it sleazy:
Yeah, the thing is that this bill will never make it out of committee. My opinion of this bill is unrelated to my opinion of Obama. In fact it's pretty dumb to even associate Obama with this bill, he didn't propose it or write it or anything.


He wouldn't veto the bill.
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Reply 13 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-02-09 09:31:56 PM)
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... It's just the internet.

edit: Also, how would you 'deactivate the internet'? That sound's completely stupid and maybe pointless.
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Reply 14 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-03-09 01:34:36 AM)
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Quoted from Amphy:
I'm shocked it took until post 5 for Obama to be mentioned, and slightly more shocked that it took ice until post 9 to start defending him.
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I literally would have to give my life to defend Obama; all he has to do is lick his ass hole on an anonymous Internet board and in his stylish clique of liberal friends.


again, this bill is retarded, but it won't get anywhere, and it's stupid to relate this bill to Obama because he had nothing to do with it.

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He wouldn't veto the bill.


the bill won't even be voted on.
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Reply 15 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-03-09 07:56:29 AM)
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Sounds like a bill written by someone who doesn't quite understand the internet entirely.

Like that movie The Core. Gotta hack the entire world wide web man.
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Reply 16 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-03-09 08:34:59 AM)
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That is simply one provision of the bill. What worries me more is his ability to seize private networks and do so with no regard for the law. This is basically the cyber patriot act.
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Reply 17 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-04-09 01:40:43 PM)
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Yeah I don't see this getting out of committee. Too many people would it oppose it and all the old farts in congress are too ignorant of the internet to understand it enough to control it.
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is obama gonna arrest me for downloading the lil weezy album??
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is obama gonna arrest me for downloading the lil weezy album??


He's going to "detain*" you for "questioning**" and then transfer you to a "temporary holding facility***" outside the country.
















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I keep thinking Obama is his first name
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Reply 21 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-04-09 04:49:40 PM)
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Like OSAMA!!!1
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I actually agree with ice on this, between the house and the senate their are some crazy shits on both sides of the isle, they can propose what ever bills they want. It doesn't reflect on the president himself


That being said, this crazy "address the school kids of American", personality cult bullshit needs to stop.
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Reply 23 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-04-09 06:10:49 PM)
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Quoted from Muzta:
I actually agree with ice on this, between the house and the senate their are some crazy shits on both sides of the isle, they can propose what ever bills they want. It doesn't reflect on the president himself


That being said, this crazy "address the school kids of American", personality cult bullshit needs to stop.



The address to the school kids of the world is somewhat disturbing, and when combined with H.R. 2857 (The GIVE Act) starts to sound a lot like Hitler youth.

The only point I was trying to make is that this is indeed fucked up legislation.

This doesn't reflect on Obama - yet. He will indeed sign off on the bill if it passes the house and senate, just like GWB did with the Patriot Act. It is just so unsettling for me.

I think it is a safe bet that everyone agrees that national news networks are a fucking joke. They report what they are told to report, and nothing more. This bill will indirectly give the government the ability to censor websites. If they don't respond accordingly, the government would have the power to shut them down if they deem it a threat.

Personally, I would rather my last reliable source for information remain untainted.

People need to stand up and display their discontent. We are going to wake up and find ourselves in a communist state where free enterprise is a thing of the past. Under the guise of social programs we will be given a place to live, told where we can go for medical attention and where we can do our banking. It isn't right.
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Reply 24 of 37 (Originally posted on: 09-04-09 07:14:33 PM)
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Between this and the "report a friend" thing, the WH has done a really poor job of assuaging the 1984 crowd, and has people like me sitting up a little straighter
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