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Reply 24 of 59 (Originally posted on: 07-20-09 11:17:26 AM)
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Quoted from awkward jimmy:
I refuse to believe that no one complained in ID when there was no BB. Half of what people get roasted for in this place is complaining.
It never happened. Without a concentrated place for bitching, and given what forumers expected from ID, the connection to bitch in ID was never made. This was even after the flaming rules were relaxed and calls for bitching were made; in most cases there was no change whatsoever.
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
I will say that the ambition of the site owners and admins has outstripped the demand of the userbase, and that it's probable that INTL will never become a significant bastion of social discourse on the internet.
None of us want that. It's better having the same 100 close regulars than 10000 constantly changing users. The only ambition that exists is to keep INTL around for those regulars. Despite what you assume, the majority of regulars who were here 5 or even 7 years ago still visit INTL, even though they may not post much at all.
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
As such, I believe it is silly for us to compartmentalize the few topics that are posted about here, and would say that the responsibility to make sure certain topics get the exposure they deserve falls to the community. If it's not being posted about in a general forum, maybe people just don't want to talk about it?
It's no longer plausible to consider ID a "general forum." In its many years of existence, it has gathered its own expectations as to what is appropriate within it, which naturally is allocated by the forumers for discussions. In other words, people have come to accept what is and what isn't a good topic for ID, it's no longer just a repository for all other topics as well. Even in the event that all specific forums were joined into one composite forum, many topics would - and in the past have - been ignored. This isn't out of lack of wanting to discuss them, so much as it is a reaction to having no guidance. In an anarchic forum, the most dominant topics typically tend to influence which topics will continue to be made, and which ones the forumers wont bother to post.
I find it hard to believe that there are no topics that people will or want to discuss. If you can have 60 posts on what your favorite soda is, or almost 400 for fantasy baseball, then any topic will be talked about, if the appropriate forum exists for it.
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
Maybe admins and mods should set an example by posting topics of varying genre to stimulate discussion, or are we too busy thinking of the next RS theme or inane tagline to slap on a forum's title?
(p.s. big words linked to definitions for the slow of wit)
Perhaps we've already done so, many countless times over the last few weeks, months, and years. You do not need to be a mod or an admin to 'set an example' and 'stimulate discussion'. You can look at Ztolk, Nickolati and FA as to why that is no true, they are perfectly capable of doing just that, as are every other user. If your concern is to stimulate discussion, than by all means make threads and make posts. Take initiative upon yourself, just as well as with others.
Your last thread was in June of 2006. Three years ago.
(p.s. words linked to threads for easier clarification of hypocrisy)
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