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Cigarettes are by the hardest addiction I have dealt with in my life - and this is coming from someone who has been strung out on coke, acid, and ecstasy for years. Compared to the urges and cravings that I get for nicotine, coke pales in comparison.

Have any of you tried to stop smoking? If so, do you have any pointers?

I smoked roughly a pack a day of Newports (lolracism) and spent on average of 120 dollars a month on this carcinogenic habit. This is unacceptable in my mind.

I don't really want to take medication to stop - most of the ones I have researched have strange side effects. I am on day three, and I have smoked a grand total of 3 cigarettes since I decided to cut back and quit. I am trying to ween myself off slowly.

So far I have noticed mood swings, jitters, and lack of concentration in myself. I am sure its going to get worse before it gets better too.

It is what it is...

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I never took it up. I guess I never really saw the benefeit. I'm very glad I didn't now.

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My mom just recently quit smoking (it's been two months now) and I have to admit, watching what she was going through for the first 2-3 weeks was incredibly difficult for me, so I can only imagine what she was going through. She was having mood swings, loss of appetite, anxiety attacks, heightened blood pressure, and a variety of other awful side effects.

The first two weeks are the worst to endure, then the effects start to decrease steadily, but are still uncomfortable. After about four weeks, you are done and then you enter the world of having to fight a psychological addiction, which in some ways is almost worse than the physical manifestation of the addiction. You literally have to WANT to quit, because if you don't truly want to quit, you will find it easy to say, "eh, one more cigarette won't hurt," and the cycle begins again until you find yourself five years from now trying to quit again.

My advice: as difficult as it is, quit cold turkey. If you ween yourself off slowly, you're only prolonging the detox. It's a personal choice though between either a prolonged mild (I use this term loosely) detox or a quick excruciating detox. The choice is yours.

I suggest quitting cold turkey. That's what my mom did and that's what I did. Frankly, if the will to quit is there, overcoming the psychological addiction is easy, so you just need to convince yourself that the physical pangs are temporary.

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http://1800quitnow.cancer.gov/

This is a free service that will help you quit smoking. They will help you establish a quit date and create a program to help you quit and stay cigarette-free. Additionally, sometimes they will provide free products (e.g. nicotine patches, gums, lozenges) as anti-smoking aids.

There are also prescription aids (Zyban, Chantix - I prefer Chantix because it actually takes the pleasure out of smoking and has relatively less side effects). Chantix is expensive and usually not covered by insurance (although it should be because quitting smoking helps lower your risk of disease you'd otherwise be at high risk for if you continued to smoke), but it is roughly ~$120, which is the same amount you'd be spending otherwise on smokes and typically you are on it for 3 months (up to 6 months). However, it is a pretty effective drug.

Cold turkey may be an option, but your success is highly determinant on how addicted you are to nicotine and how motivated you are to quit.

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What made you guys start smoking in the first place? I'm curious to know, because we live in a time when everyone knows the risks, yet people still pick it up.

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For me it was boredom, there's not much to do in North Bumfuck Maine.

As for risks....meh, risks don't stop people from baking their selves in a tanning salon

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Yeah but... tanning actual has tangible results. You know, being tan. I always just chewed gum out of boredom.

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I never really took up smoking. Sometimes I might bum a cigarette off of a friend and smoke it, but I've never really gotten addicted to it.

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I started smoking toward the end of high school, mostly because I had a bunch of friends who smoked and after months of non-smoking, I said, "you know what, let me try one of those, see what it's all about." I actually enjoyed it at first, but then quickly it became one of those things I did just because.

I didn't smoke through Basic Training simply because I couldn't, but I did think to myself every single day, "I can't wait until I can have another cigarette." And on my first day out of Basic, went right back to it. While in the military though, smoking was almost a necessity to deal with not only boredom (unlimited breaks throughout the day), but also the stress levels. Especially in Iraq. Oddly enough, I knew plenty of people who only smoked while in Iraq, but didn't smoke at all while in the States.

I didn't even quit intentionally. I bought a new car and decided not to smoke in it, because I didn't want it to smell like smoke. Then a few weeks later, I realized I couldn't even remember the last time I smoked a cigarette, so I decided to just not go back and I haven't smoked since. It's been just over two years now.

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I imagine most people take up smoking as teenagers, because it's cool and something new and exciting to do and what not, and risks don't really come very high in your priorities list at that age. For others, they just tried it and liked it.

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I didn't even quit intentionally. I bought a new car and decided not to smoke in it, because I didn't want it to smell like smoke. Then a few weeks later, I realized I couldn't even remember the last time I smoked a cigarette, so I decided to just not go back and I haven't smoked since. It's been just over two years now.

Many people tell stories similar to that, which makes me think the psychological addiction is, perhaps, a bit of a social construct. Everybody talks about how hard it will be, so smokers perhaps convince themselves it's that hard and that they're that addicted to it.

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In some regards, psychological addiction is a social construct, especially if you frequent bars or are constantly around people who also smoke. In such cases, whether or not you are legitimately psychological addicted is really of no consequence, since the company you keep will likely send you back on the path toward smoking. In such a case, it's easy to rationalize it as psychological addiction instead of just because you aren't exactly Mr. Willpower.

For some people though, the psychological addiction stems not necessarily from the actual cigarettes, but from either oral fixation or it just being a longstanding habit.

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Quoted from szaukjkjit:
I imagine most people take up smoking as teenagers, because it's cool and something new and exciting to do and what not, and risks don't really come very high in your priorities list at that age. For others, they just tried it and liked it.

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I didn't even quit intentionally. I bought a new car and decided not to smoke in it, because I didn't want it to smell like smoke. Then a few weeks later, I realized I couldn't even remember the last time I smoked a cigarette, so I decided to just not go back and I haven't smoked since. It's been just over two years now.

Many people tell stories similar to that, which makes me think the psychological addiction is, perhaps, a bit of a social construct. Everybody talks about how hard it will be, so smokers perhaps convince themselves it's that hard and that they're that addicted to it.

I am well aware that they are bad for me, and my body tells me every morning when I wake up and cough for 20 minutes.

The problem is that they are so ingrained into my daily routines that it leaves me always reaching for them. I wake up, and I want to smoke a cig because it is what I am used to doing. If I am in my car with the window down, I want to smoke because it is what I am used to doing. It just seems unnatural to me to NOT do it.

Chemically, I am definitely a goner. Like I said before - I feel strange if I don't smoke. I get shakes and get scatterbrained. When your body is used to a constant stream of nicotine (1 cigarette an hour) and you suddenly remove it the effects are more than noticeable.

It is what it is...

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Yeah, those nicotine products I mentioned earlier will definitely help you wean off so your withdrawal won't be so bad. And they can help you remove the association between smoking and some of your daily activities. For example, instead of waking up and grabbing a cigarette, you can chew a piece of nicotine gum straight out of bed. And there are different stages of these products so that you can initially get a higher dose of nicotine, and as the weeks pass, you can gradually get smaller doses until eventually you stop the product completely.

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Zippo (or anyone else), what is your opinion of using hypnosis to quit? My father has been smoking for almost 35 years, pack a day, and wants to quit, is it sucessful? He's tried both drugs you said Zippo but they clash with his other meds.

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Alternative therapies such as hypnosis or acupuncture have been shown to work for some people. There has been some mixed evidence supporting its use. It's worth a shot if he has tried other methods (such as nicotine replacement therapy) or is unable to use them.

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Quoted from Bon:
Zippo (or anyone else), what is your opinion of using hypnosis to quit? My father has been smoking for almost 35 years, pack a day, and wants to quit, is it sucessful? He's tried both drugs you said Zippo but they clash with his other meds.

Try eugenics; it has a 100% success rate from what I have heard.

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My thinking is that alternative therapies like acupuncture function on pretty much the same level as what Sukkit proposed about the addictive factors; if you believe it will help you, it probably will.

edit: since this is my first post in this thread, I'll comment on saying that I'm not a smoker and have only smoked half-cigarettes up to now, but I'm entirely unopposed to the idea of smoking cigarettes. Majority of my friends have smoked, and I've gotten quite used to the smell of second-hand smoke (almost come to enjoy it), and although I don't feel much urge to pick up the habit, I completely understand and sympathize with the need to do so.

And aside from that, smoking in general is a pretty sociable outlet. It relaxes the nerves, and anytime you put a large group of people in a confined space that are all relaxing their nerves simultaneously (ie like the "smokers pit" for office buildings or bars whatever), it's prone to spark social contact. Smokers are among the most social people in the world. Go outside at a bar where the smokers are and ask to borrow a lighter, and you're guarenteed to start a conversation.

Not to mention the general satisfaction of smoking I AM A NINJA!

So I see it's benefits and draws, but I've never decided to pick up the habit. I've contemplated it before, but always decided that I didn't want to commit myself to yet another weekly expense. I still enjoy a good cigar, and oh man if you can bring me some quality pipe tobacco, I'm your friend for life because that show is honey.

double edit: and hoookahhh?? don't even get me started. words cant really express how i feel about hookah big grin

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This reply was last edited on 03-28-09 06:29:19 PM by poop.

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double edit: and hoookahhh?? don't even get me started. words cant really express how i feel about hookah reamy:

Fuck yes. Shisha is the shit.

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Yeah, except each hookah session (approx 45 min to 1 hr) is equivalent to smoking like 50 cigs. So have fun with that. MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS

I practically grew up on hookah (me and the Arab friends would sit outside and smoke it in the backyard) so I try not to do it as much anymore now that I know how bad it actually is.

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I've been smoking for a good few years now which is quite strange to think about. It's always been more of a social thing then something I feel addicted too. I only smoke rollups, normal cigs make me feel sick, they smell so much worse, they're really expensive and they burn far too quickly.

Coming up to exams I tend to smoke a lot more, obviously the stress has something to do with it but popping outside for a smoke it THE most perfect way to have a break from work, it feels like you've done something but it doesn't last long enough for you to get distracted and loose your mindset.

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I smoke, but I'm quitting once my new insurance kicks in and I can get Chantix.

4 years of smoking is about 4 years too long, even if I do love each little puff.

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I'll smoke a cigarette here, and there, but I've never bought a pack or been addicted to them.

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I smoke cigarettes on random odd occasions. Like about a month ago I was getting to know someone, and they wanted to have a cigarette but no one else smoked so I had one with them so they wouldn't be hanging out alone. These random smoking situations are pretty rare in my life, so i've never felt anything close to addiction.

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