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Syrians have set fire to the Norwegian and Danish embassies in Damascus to protest at the publication of newspaper cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

Iran says it should consider abandoning commercial and trade deals with countries where the cartoons have appeared

The Vatican says the right to freedom of expression does not imply the right to offend religious beliefs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4681294.stm

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Some of the cartoons depict Muhammad as a terrorist.

"Alright, they think our God is a terrorist. We need to prove them wrong. Any suggestions? Ahmed? Burn their embassy? I like the cut of your jib!"

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Some of the cartoons depict Muhammad as a terrorist.

"Alright, they think our God is a terrorist. We need to prove them wrong. Any suggestions? Ahmed? Burn their embassy? I like the cut of your jib!"

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Quoted from Bon:

The Vatican says the right to freedom of expression does not imply the right to offend religious beliefs

Which is funny because that's exactly what it implies.

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Iran says it should consider abandoning commercial and trade deals with countries where the cartoons have appeared

Frosty says such action would be reasoned, proportional and make excellent commercial sense and therefore raise the living standards of the Iranian people.

Seriously though, what the hell is wrong with these people? Alright, so they want to protest and a few want to do so violently, but you'd have to be a clinical retard not to see that, the Danish and Norwegian (?!) governments aren't even indirectly responsible for what happened.

Still, I suppose they'll acheive at least some kind of success in that it's doubtless vastly decreased the chances of anyone daring to attempt anything similar in the near future. If I was the artist in question, I'd be cacking myself.

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Where can I find a picture of this cartoon on the internet? Somebody should put it up so we can see what the big deal was about.

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He looks more russian to me than arabic

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He looks more russian to me than arabic

yeah he looks like a friggin cossak. Well I guess Muslims in Iran cannot take a joke, if comedy isnt banned state wide.

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The newspaper page that started it all.

I hope this leads to some sort of war. You don't just attack Norwegian soil and get away with it.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy

It explains pretty good what happened, and what actully triggered the making of these drawings....

I think it's sad to see that those protesters in the Moslem countries are such tools, they always need something to be angry about, initiated by their shitty (religious) leaders......

Now, i could undertsand if they were attacking and protesting, and burning Dannebrog if it was because we were dumb enough to go into iraq, but threathening my country because of some cartoons a newspaper made is idiotic, these people run around with these things you put around a horses eyes (skyklapper in danish) and can't see the bigger picture.

To collectively punish the citizens and companies of Denmark and Norway for what a single newspaper published is amazingly ignorant, but these poor misguided souls aren't used to that, in their shitty countries everything i government controlled......

I don't like Nazi parades, and if they choose to march, they must expect to be counterprotested, like the newspaper should have anticipated that they would also meet resistance....But the protest should be guided at the ones responsible, and not innocents caught in the crossfire

I think it's funny that they want us to change our laws regarding free speech......how dare they act superoir in law matters, fucking barbarians chopping hands off, torture and the continual and disgusting degredation of women

And you never hear the Imam's and Mufti's complain when they post blatanly anti-semetic cartoons, or depict jews as monsters in television series, and i wouldn't mind if they did, as long as they also would accept that we also have the right to caricature them, and pick fun at them, hyppocrits.

You americans probably aren't used to having so many moslems around, they are like our versions of "the ghetto", but with notable differences to the american latino and black ghetto's

- They come to the scandinavian countries because we have the best welfare in the world
- They try to emulate american "gangster" culture, in a disturning way, since we didn't bring them over as slaves, but saved them from poor living conditions
- Most are easily provocted over nothing, and they act xeneophobic (so do danes, cause and effect?)
- It's shitty that they all live in the same place, maybe they should spread out and assimilate into danish culture, but most just keep spinning down the spiral, caught between their shitty parents attempt to preserve their outdated culture, and the lures of the western world

In conclusion, If they won't respond with reason, then neither will i, so stop burning Dannebrog and try to attack us you fucking imbicile dickheads, The Vikings will destroy your idiotic ways, and defend the best and most free place on earth, Scandinavia.

PS. If any of you are good at drawing (izzy) then please make a drawing of the Thundergod Thor smashing Mjølner into an "7th century arab looking guy"

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A bunch of shit I've said about the arab culture, but you bitched at me for.

The End.

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Surt, sounds quite a lot like muslims in the Netherlands, really. Though we're not as wealthy as you, we're not doing that bad ourselves.

So, some of them come here, looking for jobs etc. In principle I don't mind that at all, but here's the problem. Instead of marrying a dutch girl, or even a muslim dutch girl, they 'import' their wives from, say, Morocco... and usually from the most periferic areas there. No offence to them, but they still live in a way (and in the same mindsetting) as people did here, over 500 years ago.
So in a sense, we're letting our country be filled with the mentality that we had 500 years ago, very religious and 'honour'-based. I know this sounds a bit harsh, but think about it.

Also... the fact that the Arab countries simply ORDER 'us' western lands to change our freedom of speech seriously makes me mad. They, having a bunch of sheep and a lot of oil, order US, to change that which we've accomplished over the last 500 years because it does not match their Dark Age mentality?

And the great thing is that here in the Netherlands everyone has to be 'integrated', having a Dutch mentality etc. Eeeeveryone's yelling SO hard that they've done a great job... but just a few days I've heard an ?imam? preach about these caricatures. You can NOT fool me into believing that that was integrated.

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- They try to emulate american "gangster" culture, in a disturning way, since we didn't bring them over as slaves, but saved them from poor living conditions
- Most are easily provocted over nothing, and they act xeneophobic (so do danes, cause and effect?)

Lets not go over the top here.

There's certainly truth in what you're describing, but i wouldn't say "most" arabs are like that.
The ones who aren't, like, teenagers coming from the worst ghetto-parts of the major cities aren't very aggressive or violent at all.
And as i don't live near any of those areas, there are a lot of arabs around here, but they don't seem to act any more obnoxiously than your general drunken swede does.

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Quoted from anaemic_royalty:
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- They try to emulate american "gangster" culture, in a disturning way, since we didn't bring them over as slaves, but saved them from poor living conditions
- Most are easily provocted over nothing, and they act xeneophobic (so do danes, cause and effect?)

Lets not go over the top here.

There's certainly truth in what you're describing, but i wouldn't say "most" arabs are like that.
The ones who aren't, like, teenagers coming from the worst ghetto-parts of the major cities aren't very aggressive or violent at all.
And as i don't live near any of those areas, there are a lot of arabs around here, but they don't seem to act any more obnoxiously than your general drunken swede does.

You live in the countryside, my friend. Muslims congregate in big cities such as the ones where Surt and I live. I went to school with these people, I know how bad it is. Everything Surt says is true.

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I think Surt lives in Esbjerg, which i would hardly call a big city.
Also, i wouldn't call my city the countryside. (70-80 thousand people)

I really haven't noticed young arabs being much bigger assholes than any group of 14-15 year old Swedish boys are.
And the older arabs i go to school with (20-35 years) are quite friendly.

I'm sure it is worse in major cities though, because there all the arabs gather together in the worst and poorest neighbourhoods.
And living in a crime-infested ghetto tends to make people in general more aggressive.

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I saw a photo of a protesting guy hold up a banner saying "FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL." What the fuck is that, it's freedom of speech that lets you practise your retarded religion in the first place.

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Quoted from Mr Excitable:
Quoted from mmac:
He looks more russian to me than arabic

yeah he looks like a friggin cossak. Well I guess Muslims in Iran cannot take a joke, if comedy isnt banned state wide.

Images of the prophet are prohibited in Muslim culture.

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As was pointed out by Chimp and many others, Muslims are merely confirming our prejudices. I've seen so many on other message boards try to defend Muslims in some way, saying that this is the act of extremists, or that it is counter to Islamic teachings. But when was the last time Americans broke into and burned down an embassy of some other country? Or that any country allowed its citizens to destroy the embassies of other countries? I can't recall it happening anywhere other than Islamic countries.

Regardless of what the Koran says, Muslim culture and violence go hand in hand. It isn't that civilization is not yet structured enough in the Middle East to maintain law and order. We see examples of chaotic violence in Africa, which is very different from the organized and religiously motivated violence we see coming from Islamic countries. Muslim cultures dole out justice with extreme methods, and via values that contradict our own. While it is not sanctioned by Sharia, honor killings provide unique insight into the demented culture that dominates the Middle East. A woman who has been raped is considered to have dishonored her family, and must be killed.

Amusingly, some Muslims have taken this opportunity to lash back with their own cartoons. Lacking dirt on the Danes, they instead turn to their favorite target, the Jews. Here is a group they have plenty of experience pissing off:

While the anti-defamation league is not happy about this, I don't see the Jews burning down any embassies.

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Quoted from anaemic_royalty:
I think Surt lives in Esbjerg, which i would hardly call a big city.
Also, i wouldn't call my city the countryside. (70-80 thousand people)

I really haven't noticed young arabs being much bigger assholes than any group of 14-15 year old Swedish boys are.
And the older arabs i go to school with (20-35 years) are quite friendly.

I'm sure it is worse in major cities though, because there all the arabs gather together in the worst and poorest neighbourhoods.
And living in a crime-infested ghetto tends to make people in general more aggressive.

Well, i really shouldn't have started a discussion about moslems in scandinavia, and rather focus on those down there...

But let me tell ya, i live in the eastern part of town, and i went to the worst elimentary school in the whole city, and while i totally agree that it's a shitty idea to congegrate all moslems in the same place, i certainly think they have the best chances for building a new and good life in scandinavia, than anywhere else in the world, free school, free money & freedom to be who you want to be.
Many Danes also live in those "bolig blokke" apartments, with a single mom etc. but they still manage to go to like a technical school or do something......It's like the Moslem kids have decided that they might aswell don't care about anything, and just stay mad, like a stubborn child.
Funny thing though, i've always thought that the somalis where the nicest, and that the arabs and turks seem to be most agressive, to the point where you can't even look at them right, i was well aware not to fight back when some 'perker' would try to provoke me into a fight, so i just held him, but didn't punch, cause if i had wiped some ass, his bigger brother would come......They are cowards alone, and only play smart in packs....

So yeah, Esbjerg may be a relative little town, but i for one have meet the full impact of the ghettorization of certain parts of town......a friend of mine from the northern part of time once said that they had one moslem at their elementary school.....

I believe that they have to break their pattern of destruction, and pull themselves together and MOVE ON, but they are inhibited in their culture in that......From our side i belive that they should be more spread out to easier assimilate into Danish soceity, IF they want to, because else, i think they should go back to their respective countries......but ah, monetary reasons conquor fatherland feelings in most cases....

Back to the issue at hand, MMAC, while i agree that it is generally a lame culture, i also think that the general population are subjected to alot of propaganda from both political and religious sides, and that i feel quite sorry for those, as they act like tools......
Further more, i wouldn't complain if they were burning stuff because we were dumb enough to go into iraq, but what i'm not putting up with is them trying to punish the whole Danish people for what a single newspaper which has it's own opinions publishes...

Also, they apperently burn the embasies down because they heard we were burning Korans in Copenhagen from an undocumented source.....They really don't need much more than a lie...
Also, they made images of our queen looking like a cow, because some dumbass mistranslated a quote from her to "oppose radical islam" to something like "attack islam"......I pity those reactionary biased fools, i would love to come on an egyptian news show, and own the fuck out of any of their commentators...

One Used a reference how we are afraid to be anti-semantic with reference to the movie "merchant from venice", and how it was changed to be more positive of jews, and i was like "that is a movie from hollywood, not Denmark, you fucking idiot"...I'm well aware that there is an anti-deformation leaugue in the US, but we have no such thing, and we also have very few jews, especially profilific jews.....so we don't talk much about them, but we critisize Israel very often. Oh, and christianity is like the number one religion we debate about and make fun of, but you never hear the Imams complain when that happens.....hypocrits

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For mocking political conservatives quite often, you seem to be at the far end of conservative on this issue.

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Quoted from IF0:
For mocking political conservatives quite often, you seem to be at the far end of conservative on this issue.

Eh, all i'm doing is defending my country against unfair attacks, i really don't see your argument here, so i'm just assuming your trying to flame me

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