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(Originally posted on: 12-04-05 11:03:40 PM)
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(Okay I'm not actually going to let the internet decide my career path but this is just a thread to take up space and maybe give me ideas as I am thinking shit over and talking aloud.)

So basically, I'm going to graduate in 2006 with my first shiny degree from a good school. My degree (B.A.) is in History and my minor is Sociology.

And with this in mind I am having a TOTAL CRISIS because OH MY GOD I HAVE BEEN IN SCHOOL FOR SEVENTEEN YEARS - WHAT NOW?!?

So my options are
- get a job
- do more school (then get a job)
- ummmm live in poverty

As far as getting a job goes, with just a B.A. my options as I see them are pretty much
- call centre (could have done this WITHOUT degree)
- teaching English somewhere overseas (intriguing and terrifying)
- low-to-middle level retail jobs (a la continuing my deli job, or I could probably work up to some sort of supervising/managing position)
- maybe some sort of office work
- other stuff I haven't thought of because I've been busy memorizing and forgetting stuff for exams rather than seriously considering life after school (hence thread)

Some of the things I have considered as possible career paths include:
- library science (very competitive, I don't know if I would get in...)
- some sort of journalism/editing path (wouldn't a background in English be preferable to history?)
- education (though I hate giving speeches and teaching is a lifetime of giving speeches)
- law (not a very serious consideration)

Here are the professional-type things I am good at:
- organization
- essay writing
- picking out spelling and grammar errors
- writing essays and other academic things with lengthy and complex sentences
- using MS Office/typing
- I speak mediocre French

...and the things I like:
- books
- talking about celebrities and pop culture
- surfing the internet
- staying up late and sleeping in later
- going to the gym

So we can see that my personal interests don't really match up to any particular career. Therein lies my problem! I want to do something I like to make all the damned money I've spent worth it.

My dream life of winning the lottery and then travelling the globe taking pictures does not seem like something I should be hinging my future on, so instead I turn to the internet.

What does INTL think I would be good at?

TL;DR CREW: HELP I DUNNO WHAT TO DO WHEN I GRADUATE PLZ TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD JOB FOR ME
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Reply 1 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-04-05 11:08:05 PM)
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- some sort of journalism/editing path (wouldn't a background in English be preferable to history?)


No, a background in history will better help you to contextualise and therefore analyse the events that are being reported. You should be able to write/edit anyway, if you have any decent sort of education.
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Reply 2 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-04-05 11:43:15 PM)
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We both know where your real skills are. You need to try to get a job on TWOP and become a professional snarker.
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Reply 3 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-04-05 11:54:39 PM)
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My degree (B.A.) is in History and my minor is Sociology.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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- teaching English somewhere overseas (intriguing and terrifying)



Do this, it sounds like something you'd like.
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Reply 4 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 12:02:28 AM)
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I can see you going overseas to teach for a little while, but most people only do it for a couple of years. I don't think I could deal with being on a different continent than my family for more than a year or two, but maybe you're ok with that.
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Reply 5 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 12:08:44 AM)
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No, a background in history will better help you to contextualise and therefore analyse the events that are being reported. You should be able to write/edit anyway, if you have any decent sort of education.


Hmm, good to know.

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We both know where your real skills are. You need to try to get a job on TWOP and become a professional snarker.


Now we're talking coal I don't think that's a living wage type of position though. And also I hate like 85% of the big guns on TWoP.

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My degree (B.A.) is in History and my minor is Sociology.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Oh, you don't approve? omg yah rite fag lol Please say something about getting a BA and working fast food to cement the originality of your comment. A Bachelor of Science degree on its own does not get a person much further than a Bachelor of Arts. In this day in age both are pretty much a launch pad for specialization. I started out in the B.Sc. Biology program. Hated it. I liked history, and I am good at it.

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I can see you going overseas to teach for a little while, but most people only do it for a couple of years. I don't think I could deal with being on a different continent than my family for more than a year or two, but maybe you're ok with that.


I have thought hard about it, because it seems interesting (and the Asian jobs pay well), and it fits my desire to travel, but I find the idea of being all alone on the other side of the world for a year or more to be very scary! ew gros
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Reply 6 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 01:06:28 AM)
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Quoted from kayte:
My degree (B.A.) is in History and my minor is Sociology.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




you're right, we should become much more respectable, sucessful contributors to society such as yourself.
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Reply 7 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 05:21:21 AM)
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Keep your deli job, get a second job and spend the second checks entirety on lotto tickets, something's bound to happen. EVENTUALLY i'm a serial-killer :)


But seriously, I was looking around...check this site out. It's another schools website, but it has a list of entry level possibilities, and also a list of jobs that require a bit more school...Dont know if it helps but good luck.

http://www.uncwil.edu/stuaff/career/Majors/sociology.htm
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Reply 8 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 05:56:17 AM)
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Some of the things I have considered as possible career paths include:
- library science (very competitive, I don't know if I would get in...)

I would go for library science. You're right -- it is competitive because there are a limited number of programs, but once you get into the field, you learn A LOT, meet many people, and have lots of opportunities for advancement. Plus as someone who is just entering the job market, you can pull more weight salary-wise if you have a masters degree.
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Reply 9 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 05:59:00 AM)
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Kayte, you gots to get that ass into porn

litteraly! learn u some stuff ok??
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Reply 10 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 08:34:54 AM)
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Reply 11 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 09:20:54 AM)
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Part of your dilemma is the one we all face ... the difference between the glitter of an academic major and the real-life grind of being in any particular job.

One approach is to see what day-to-day activities and behaviors you enjoy (or can tolerate) the most and let that drive part of the decision-making.

One test you can take is the Motivational Appraisal of Personal Potential. The come-on page says free, but to get the full results, expect to shell out $30. But for that fee it will give you top ten career choices and a fairly lengthy report about yourself.

http://www.assessment.com/MAPPMembers/Welcome.asp?accnum=06-5585-000.00

Good luck with that ... your choices will determine a lot of your day-to-day life satisfaction.
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Reply 12 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 09:24:10 AM)
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No, a background in history will better help you to contextualise and therefore analyse the events that are being reported. You should be able to write/edit anyway, if you have any decent sort of education.


Hmm, good to know.


Yeah. Of course you also need a portfolio of journalistic work in order to get into most j-schools. Or to get work anywhere in the field. Have you written anything, taken photos, etc., for your school paper or anything?
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Reply 13 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 09:57:18 AM)
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- teaching English somewhere overseas (intriguing and terrifying)


honestly, i got to this and didn't read any more of your post. this is exactly what i would do if i were you, as it's sure to be the most fulfilling.
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Reply 14 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 10:05:34 AM)
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Honestly, you should look into it. My best friend just left two weeks ago to teach in South Korea, and another friend of mine joined the Peace Corps and will teach in Thailand. Both are frightened and excited, but it is a rewarding and culturally enriching experience. Plus, who knows; it might inspire a career path in the international sphere that's closer to what you're interested in pursuing long-term.
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Reply 15 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 10:27:30 AM)
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Honestly, you should look into it. My best friend just left two weeks ago to teach in South Korea, and another friend of mine joined the Peace Corps and will teach in Thailand. Both are frightened and excited, but it is a rewarding and culturally enriching experience. Plus, who knows; it might inspire a career path in the international sphere that's closer to what you're interested in pursuing long-term.


Or you might get abducted and then you'd be on the news and famous!
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Reply 16 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 10:27:58 AM)
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Just because you can speak a language that doesn't mean you are good at teaching it. That's a job for the specialists. Besides, there are too many of us looking into the possibility of usurping that job.

Now seriously, it would work to make some money for your traveling purposes, but little else.
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Reply 17 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 10:34:58 AM)
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Negative. Native English speakers can make $40/hr in Germany, and the ESL certification is incredibly easy to get.
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Reply 18 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 10:39:20 AM)
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Negative. Native English speakers can make \$40/hr in Germany, and the ESL certification is incredibly easy to get.


Plus both of my friends graduated from college with B.A.s in English. So it's not like they blindly signed up for the program.

Most schools abroad mainly require a B.A. degree and ESL certification, along with an interviewing process.
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Reply 19 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 10:40:20 AM)
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That means my second paragraph is wrong, but the first one still stands. That will only make it even harder for the true teachers, though.
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Reply 20 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 11:25:56 AM)
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Kayte, if you want to earn some :bling: on the side I'll give you a nickel to tickle my pickle. Hopefully I'll offer a 401K within the next year.
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Reply 21 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 02:57:38 PM)
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I would go for library science. You're right -- it is competitive because there are a limited number of programs, but once you get into the field, you learn A LOT, meet many people, and have lots of opportunities for advancement. Plus as someone who is just entering the job market, you can pull more weight salary-wise if you have a masters degree.


This is quickly becoming my #1 choice. But there are only 7 schools in Canada that offer it! Gah! Maybe if I apply to all of them... and half the ones in the US... and some in Europe... maybe one of them will accept me! ew gros

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One test you can take is the Motivational Appraisal of Personal Potential. The come-on page says free, but to get the full results, expect to shell out $30. But for that fee it will give you top ten career choices and a fairly lengthy report about yourself.

http://www.assessment.com/MAPPMembers/Welcome.asp?...585-000.00



Okay, that was freaking long. And it only gave me career choices 11 - 20 rather than 1 - 10, the bastards. But here are among some of the things it said!:

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Kayte is conscious of existence, meaning, purpose, potential and destiny of humankind, people, and self. Kayte is motivated by a self-felt, self-accepted calling to the cause of good, growth, and gain in the lives of others. Influential communication of ideas is a primary way of achieving those objectives. Perception and thinking tend to be holistic and conceptual; i.e., seeing the big picture. It is important to see which of the other traits are interactive with this trait because there can be many interesting combinations. This is a major trait in cultural, intellectual, academic, and creative activities. It includes ideas, concepts, theory, ethics, and values.

Kayte has excellent perception, retention, and literal recall of detail... This combination can be useful in such activities as clerical, computational, administrative, literary, technical, operational, supervisory, and/or managerial activities...

Kayte feels both privilege and responsibility to use communication (including persuasion) to voluntarily provide beneficial information to others. This includes strongly motivated benevolent and literary traits. Self-satisfaction comes almost exclusively from the subjective realization that the information, voluntarily given, has been helpful to other persons. Kayte is further motivated to learn and understand the other person(s) needs wishes and listening preferences. Non-persuasive service communication can become persuasive and persistent when expressed in the interest of someone needing Kayte to stand up for them.

High motivational levels in the copy trait means more than laying a paper face down in a copy machine and pushing buttons. It includes: 1) awareness of spatial measure and layout: size, shape, dimension, perspective; 2) artistic ability for factual image reproduction; 3) attention to detail; 4) awareness of machine function and use; and 5) tolerance of or preference for routine. High motivational levels represent an asset for database management, administrative work, warehouse processing, or library activities as well. It is particularly valuable for persons operating printing or copy shops or persons involved in publishing with computers. Kayte would most likely prefer activities that include as many of the attributes, mentioned above, as possible...

Kayte has a unique motivation to carefully, thoroughly read simple explanatory or instructional statements (like the directions on the label of a soup can) and fully/accurately know what was said. (NOTE: This is not a widely shared trait. Unless the subject attracts the reader's attention in the first place, reading of elementary instructions is just scanning, and some information is probably overlooked, ignored, or bypassed. Kayte should regard this unique asset as vocationally important.)


  • Kayte enjoys associating and interacting with people but likes independence as well...
  • Kayte's preferences can include routine, organized, and methodical procedures, but this is not a need or dependency...
  • Kayte is motivated to work on projects that are planned, scheduled, and completed...
  • Most likely, Kayte is logical and analytical and is motivated to make sense of perceptions by identifying how things log...
  • Kayte highly prefers a given, known, managed, and supported organizational position and role...
  • Kayte is very attached to and prefers the familiar while simultaneously quite resistant to change...
  • Kayte is not motivated to persuade and is probably ill-equipped to do so; instead, Kayte can most likely be intimidated...
  • Kayte most likely relies on a natural ability to retain and recall great detail...
  • Intellectual and/or analytical work, most likely represent somewhat important types of mental activities...
  • Kayte is aware of details for their own sake, and sees the linkage and relationship associating that detail with something...
  • Philosophical, literary, scientific, managerial and/or persuasive traits may be involved in Kayte's motivation and drive...
  • Compiling means more than simply gathering large volumes of data sheets and stuffing them in a filing cabinet.
  • Kayte is highly motivated for routine, factual, mathematical problems related to operational, procedural, or administrative...
  • Kayte prefers an emphasis on utility when called upon to recognize and identify or classify important factors...
  • Kayte prefers, perhaps even mentally needs, and most likely enjoys occupational activity which is exclusively methodical...
  • The preferences in Kayte's mind tend to be oriented toward systems engineering: identifying, analyzing, and solving challenges...
  • Kayte is motivated to describe, explain, teach, illustrate, and interpret. This is a journalistic trait...
  • Motivational levels for Kayte support activities including word processing in its widest application: administrative...
  • Kayte is highly motivated to consider creative writing and communicating at professional levels...




  • Okay I don't know why I bothered to copy that out because no one will read it but me, oh well!

    Quoted from uselessinformation:
    Yeah. Of course you also need a portfolio of journalistic work in order to get into most j-schools. Or to get work anywhere in the field. Have you written anything, taken photos, etc., for your school paper or anything?


    Nope, sure haven't. My journalism interest mostly lies in editing and photos though, not writing stories. Unless they're for the entertainment section. lol @ duck hunt

    Quoted from Caitlyn.:
    honestly, i got to this and didn't read any more of your post. this is exactly what i would do if i were you, as it's sure to be the most fulfilling.


    Quoted from Skye:
    Both are frightened and excited, but it is a rewarding and culturally enriching experience. Plus, who knows; it might inspire a career path in the international sphere that's closer to what you're interested in pursuing long-term.


    The main problem I have is that I think if I had to spend a year on the other side of the world with no one I know and a huge language barrier I'd probably have a mental breakdown at some point.

    Quoted from awkward jimmy:
    Or you might get abducted and then you'd be on the news and famous!


    I'm not blonde MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS The news only cares about missing blondes. Unless there's a chance that the pretty white girl's boyfriend killed her, then a brunette can get some press, too. Black chicks need not apply! ohno u didnt, sistah!

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    Just because you can speak a language that doesn't mean you are good at teaching it. That's a job for the specialists. Besides, there are too many of us looking into the possibility of usurping that job.

    Now seriously, it would work to make some money for your traveling purposes, but little else.


    Heh, tell that to the schools in Asia and eastern Europe. I personally know 3 people teaching in Asia right now, one has a degree in Music, and one a degree in English & Sociology (don't know about the third). Also what Skye said re: requirements. I figured it would be 1. travel time, and 2. teaching experience, should I want to consider education (but mostly travel).

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    Kayte, if you want to earn some :bling: on the side I'll give you a nickel to tickle my pickle. Hopefully I'll offer a 401K within the next year.


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    Reply 22 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 03:01:56 PM)
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    My school has a library science masters. Come here so I don't have to fap over you anymore.
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    Reply 23 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 07:58:15 PM)
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    Ive been wondering this....what exactly were your plans when choosing your majors?
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    Reply 24 of 62 (Originally posted on: 12-05-05 08:32:03 PM)
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    Quoted from Herminator:
    Ive been wondering this....what exactly were your plans when choosing your majors?


    Well like I said I was accepted to my school in the B.Sc. Biology program. My plan was to be a pharmacist. Then I hated all of my classes.

    So I switched and the registrar just kind of assigned me a major that I ended up happening to be good at and I DIDN'T have any plans for it, hence the thread.
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