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(Originally posted on: 12-01-05 08:04:55 PM)
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today I had a friend send me a link to this myspace bulletin:

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&messageID=328019962&Mytoken=2E3F3E7C-D412-448D-B48588D826B98ADB7126122658&setonlinenow=1&Mytoken=AFAE5E2F-11C9-A0B0-AD4AD9E5C28888B012576703&setonlinenow=1&Mytoken=FA265AAD-70A3-11A6-89821410EBCD07F614629891

apparently some kid posted a suicide bulletin on myspace minutes before he shot himself in the head. this was the only article i could find on the matter, and it's pretty poorly written, but here it is, anyway.

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=6d8134fbbe964d76f864b3b9682dcb19

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By 10 p.m. the night of his death, Josh was being eulogized.
i think the fact that kids keep writing him comments is stupid. he can't read them, dollfaces. he's dead. apparently, though, someone's logged into his account since he's killed himself, although i don't know why anyone would.
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Reply 1 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-01-05 08:27:29 PM)
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Is this the same kid that was sent off to anti-gay camp a while back?
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Reply 2 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-01-05 08:31:24 PM)
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This isn't anything new. People have been posting videos, pictures and writings on the internet right before they kill themselves for years. Just because it is on myspace doesn't mean it is something new and shocking.
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Reply 3 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-01-05 08:43:26 PM)
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I think it's out of the ordinary cause of the social nature of myspace. It's not like a personal website or journal or anything... Cause now he's got all these friends commenting on his pictures and his page and its all so interactive..

I don't really know anything about what you're saying though, maybe it isn't anything new. First time i've seen something like it or thought about something like it.
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Reply 4 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-01-05 08:44:44 PM)
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Quoted from Mr Excitable:
This isn't anything new. People have been posting videos, pictures and writings on the internet right before they kill themselves for years. Just because it is on myspace doesn't mean it is something new and shocking.
i didn't even think of that, honestly. i just read it and thought it was funny, especially some of the comments that people have left on his page.


edit: i guess dimi's got it right, that's what i was thinking about when i posted this thread.
This reply was last edited on 12-01-05 08:51:27 PM by Lyle.
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Reply 5 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-01-05 10:17:47 PM)
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Wow, that totally raises the bar for myspace attention whoring. :monocle:
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Reply 6 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 08:34:22 AM)
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I think I posted a bulletin once and made one blog entry in MySpace. Of the bulletin I posted, one person responded (peach) and no one reponsded to my blog entry.

I really only log in to see if anyone added or me made a comment or is requesting me as a friend. If I don't see the "NEW FRIEND REQUEST" or "NEW COMMENT" or "NEW MESSAGE" I just close the window and log back in a couple weeks later when I get bored enough to.
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Reply 7 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 12:31:20 PM)
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Can someone post his account? Cause I can't seem to read the bulletin, all I get is a blank space...

Deleted bulletin, perhaps?
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Reply 8 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 01:40:06 PM)
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Yea I can't get to it either.
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Reply 9 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 02:01:52 PM)
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Granted its sad the kid did himself in... but the truly sad thing is its likely that over the next few months this will increasingly happen. Its in peoples head now.
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Reply 10 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 02:24:05 PM)
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I still don't feel sorry for anyone who commits suicide. Fucking get over it and move on, asshole.
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Reply 11 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 02:26:18 PM)
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It's still not revolutionary, especially considering that the last two 'online deaths' I've heard of dealt with the murder of one guy shortly after he posted in his blog, and the murder-suicide committed by another guy who posted at SA.
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Reply 12 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 02:30:31 PM)
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You're dealing with a deeply unhappy and poorly raised strata of society that lives and breathes the digital life. It's not suprising at all and it's been going on in some asian countries for years now.

You'd better watch out; you better go hide!
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Reply 13 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 02:58:19 PM)
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I don't really think this is amazing at all. Like, people kill themselves and leave suicide notes. It's not really a new development

The only thing different is that he's leaving his suicide note on myspace, but that doesn't mean myspace had anything to do with him killing himself. It's one of the logical fallacies that the news media is so inclined to make.
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Reply 14 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 03:11:06 PM)
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I listened to Marilyn Manson then I shot up my school. It's Manson's fault!

I listened to Rose Royce then I shot up the local car wash. Fucken Royce...

Actually, if you listened to that Car Wash song, then remembered your car really did need a wash, and visited the car wash, would that prove the influence suggestions in music can have on the decisions we make in the physical world? If i'm fucked in the head, maybe tortured by peer pressures at school and by ignorant parents at home, and some musician that I greatly admire comes on the stereo advocating killing all the pigs, could the music be something of an accomplice? If it's a severe suggestion and they're dumb enough to take it...

Is there a point where society and more specifically, pop culture, does play a part in stimulating all this? Just playing devil's advocate.

You'd better watch out; you better go hide!
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Reply 15 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 03:34:00 PM)
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Society takes too much shit from kids and doesn't teach them to suck it up. The starving African kid who works in the diamond mines and gets his ass kicked every day hasn't commited suicide yet.

edit: now he has MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS
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Reply 16 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 03:51:16 PM)
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A CHANGING South Africa has exacted a heavy toll on black South Africans.
The past decade has seen a 48% increase in suicides among black people as
more South Africans than ever before take their own lives to escape their
problems.

Nowhere is this more harshly evident than in Umtata, in the Eastern Cape,
where an academic has calculated the suicide rate to be in the region of
30 per 100 000 people, almost twice the World Health Organisation's
estimated global average of 16 per 100 000.

"More and more people are committing suicide," said Professor Banwari
Meel, who has published five papers on suicide in the Umtata region.

"Female suicide in particular is increasing. In the last five years it
has increased at least threefold."

Nationally, too, the numbers are growing and previously uncommon
categories of suicide, such as family suicides, are becoming prevalent.

Research released last week by Professor Lourens Schlebusch of the Nelson
Mandela School of Medicine at KwaZulu-Natal University shows that suicide
now accounts for 10% of all non-natural deaths in South Africa, up from
8% in 1999.

"The figures are inordinately high," said Schlebusch, who sits on a
special suicide panel of the World Health Organisation.

Of South Africa's suicide victims, about:
43% are black;
38% are white;
16% are coloured; and
2% are Indian.


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Apparently that is not true, Sam.

http://www.suicidereferencelibrary.com/test4~id~1419.php

Here is an excellent article that will not let me right click and quote from it.

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Reply 17 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 03:54:35 PM)
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O my. MAGUSMAGUSMAGUSMAGUS

Still doesn't make me think kids should kill themselves over girls.
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Reply 18 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 04:00:17 PM)
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Of course they shouldnt. Youth depression is a serious problem; they arent wise enough to be able to surmount problems with logic and everything seems exaggerated because of all those raging hormones that are designed to force you out of the nest and out on your own.

You'd better watch out; you better go hide!
And Elder Sign's needed for this Yuletide
Great Old Ones are comin to town.

They're making a fist and shaking it twice.
They're going to hit you, naughty or nice.
Great Old Ones are coming to town.
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Reply 19 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 04:00:55 PM)
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I still don't feel sorry for anyone who commits suicide.


Yeah, let's go back to the Middle Ages when "mental illness" was "oh I guess Aelfwyn's being infested by the dark bile mind-demons again."

Exorcise those demons, Chimpy!

Out with ye, out with ye, return to the light and the Lord!
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Reply 20 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 04:18:48 PM)
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Quoted from Pluveto:
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I still don't feel sorry for anyone who commits suicide.


Yeah, let's go back to the Middle Ages when "mental illness" was "oh I guess Aelfwyn's being infested by the dark bile mind-demons again."

Exorcise those demons, Chimpy!

Out with ye, out with ye, return to the light and the Lord!



There has to be a middle ground in there somewhere i'm a serial-killer :)
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Reply 21 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 06:05:15 PM)
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Quoted from Pluveto:
Quote:
I still don't feel sorry for anyone who commits suicide.


Yeah, let's go back to the Middle Ages when "mental illness" was "oh I guess Aelfwyn's being infested by the dark bile mind-demons again."

Exorcise those demons, Chimpy!

Out with ye, out with ye, return to the light and the Lord!


You fail, Sammy.
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Reply 22 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 06:05:16 PM)
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Quoted from Kitabatake:
Can someone post his account? Cause I can't seem to read the bulletin, all I get is a blank space...

Deleted bulletin, perhaps?


that's probably what it is. here's the link to his account:

http://www.myspace.com/jloveb
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Reply 23 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 06:06:58 PM)
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Quoted from Pluveto:
Quote:
I still don't feel sorry for anyone who commits suicide.


Yeah, let's go back to the Middle Ages when "mental illness" was "oh I guess Aelfwyn's being infested by the dark bile mind-demons again."

Exorcise those demons, Chimpy!

Out with ye, out with ye, return to the light and the Lord!


I don't think God has anything to do with it, I think that people use any excuse to declare a mental illness and I'd say we all too often chalk up a suicide to a mental illness when there was none. Life has it's ups and downs and sometimes there are long periods of downs. I may feel upset and even depressed for long periods of time, but I'm not going to kill myself. Most people just need to learn to deal with this and deal with the fact that lots of people who commit suicide didn't have a mental illness, they were just weak.

Now see this part of this post and realize something: I think that sometimes there is an actual mental illness that could contribute, I misspoke earlier and I'm sorry.
This moment in time is all I've got right now. I have to make the most of it now, or look back in regret.
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Reply 24 of 48 (Originally posted on: 12-02-05 08:05:14 PM)
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The song in his profile was deleted by the artist.

Dammit now I need to know what it was!!
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