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I have broken down women into three major groups. Women that don't have money and women that do - and then there are some that are just plain cunts. This sounds terrible, but its the fucking truth.

When I take someone out I don't expect for them to return the favor, but I do expect them to act like they appreciate it. After a good meal (usually costing anywhere from 50-75 dollars depending on what I have to drink) there are a few keys phrases I very much enjoy hearing. In no particular order...

1. "That was a good dinner and I appreciate you taking me out."

2. "That was a good dinner and I think we should do it again soon, but next time its on me."

3. "Sooo full, lets go back to my place and watch a movie or something."

Now, I do definately expect number 1 everytime without fail. It is the least that should happen. I definately don't expect a girl to suck my dick everytime I get her dinner, but she should at least let it known that she is pleased for not having to pay for her own shit. Lately the string of girls I have taken out have all plain sucked. No thank you or anything. That is cool though, Karma is a bitch.

Last week, all dates are with same girl...

Monday - 60 dollars at an Italian Steakhouse
Wednesday - 55 dollars at Red Lobster
Thursday - 75 dollar lunch for two at dank Sushi House
Friday - got girl fucked up for free... at least 100 dollars in shit.

Yeah, that is a lot of money to spend on someone in a week. That is just how I roll most of the time. I like to eat out a lot versus cooking food myself. It is one of the perks of being my friend I guess. Maybe I am being a dick by expecting some sort of payback... I don't know anymore.

A good way to guarantee a second date with me is to pay for your own shit. Not because I need my dates to, but because it shows that they are there to spend time with me rather than using me as a meal ticket.
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Reply 1 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 12:37:53 AM)
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If she didn't say thank you on Wednesday what made you think she might say it by Friday?

If there was no sign of apreciation a good way to see if she maybe just forgot to thank you would be to ask if she enjoyed the meal. If the response is positive and at least somehow shows she appreciated you paying then you can see if she deserves you buying the next night.
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Reply 2 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 01:41:47 AM)
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Because we're fucking tools.
I agree with neon. Also, you should probably ask the next girl to chip in or go Dutch. We aren't all cheap bitches.
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Reply 3 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 08:39:33 AM)
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now I ain't saying shes a gold digger...

Man move the hell on from here. Ive been dating Ms Pt for ages and she says thank you and gets all giddy when I cook supper let alone take her out on the town. She would be saying thank you, go find someone who knows they are getting spoiled.
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Reply 4 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 08:53:33 AM)
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I bet a guy would say 'Thank You', Nickolati.
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Reply 5 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 10:56:35 AM)
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Quoted from neon:
If she didn't say thank you on Wednesday what made you think she might say it by Friday?

If there was no sign of apreciation a good way to see if she maybe just forgot to thank you would be to ask if she enjoyed the meal. If the response is positive and at least somehow shows she appreciated you paying then you can see if she deserves you buying the next night.


The thing is that it doesn't really bother me THAT much. I'd go out and eat if I were alone, and the money that I spend is not money legitimately earned if you catch my drift. It really doesn't cost me anything, but that is still cash I could put towards something a lot cooler, like a hooker.

She knows this, and I think that is why she doesn't seem so amazed by me dropping mad cash to feed us all the time. Still, it is money that I earned by running great risks.

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I bet a guy would say 'Thank You', Nickolati.

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Reply 6 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 11:12:04 AM)
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Next time take her to McDonalds and share a happy meal. Then throw milkshake in her face!
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Reply 7 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 11:45:49 AM)
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Maybe if you didnt go through so many bloody women you wouldnt be able to sound so assured when you place us into one of three catagories ;p Be more discerning. There are just as many awful men out there.

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Reply 8 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 11:50:33 AM)
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yeah dude mcdonalds has a dollar menu. you can be pretty damn full off 3-6 dollars so next time why dont you get her a double cheeseburger and leave it at that then you wont have to make these threads about how you wasted all of your money
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Reply 9 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 12:25:54 PM)
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Generally speaking, it's good to thank anyone for any good or nice thing they do for you. This girl sounds kind of cruddy. You're certainly spending a lot of time with that money hole. Does she do anything aside from go to restaurants, get fucked up and not say thank you?

You've at least learned something yourself, or reassured in your belief that you should always thank someone for taking you out for dinner. So when some tall, dark, handsome stranger, or maybe some girl who decides that she must pay for the meal because she's ridden with guilt or something asks you out for dinner, you will remember to say thank you.

But yeah, this girl you're with seems dopey.
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Reply 10 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 05:21:50 PM)
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I'm not sure how the having or not of money correlates to the having or not of manners.

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A good way to guarantee a second date with me is to pay for your own shit.


If someone asks me on a date I think it's reasonable to assume that they are going to pay. Because, you know, they asked. If it's not a date, then I expect to pay for myself.

Either way when someone buys me dinner I say thank you. It's just polite!
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Reply 11 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 05:50:08 PM)
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If someone asks me on a date I think it's reasonable to assume that they are going to pay. Because, you know, they asked. If it's not a date, then I expect to pay for myself.

Ah, but then you must ask, "What is considered a date?"

I've only ever been on one date where I let the guy foot the entire bill, and that was only after I offered about twenty times to chip in at least half.

Nickolati, I agree with Mr E. She obviously has no appreciation for anything, which is a HUGE character flaw. Step away from the girl.
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Reply 12 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 09:57:20 PM)
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Quoted from kayte:
If someone asks me on a date I think it's reasonable to assume that they are going to pay. Because, you know, they asked. If it's not a date, then I expect to pay for myself.

Ah, but then you must ask, "What is considered a date?"


When he says "I'd like to take you out to dinner." It's not rocket science. lol @ duck hunt
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Reply 13 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 10:01:15 PM)
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Quoted from kayte:
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Quoted from kayte:
If someone asks me on a date I think it's reasonable to assume that they are going to pay. Because, you know, they asked. If it's not a date, then I expect to pay for myself.

Ah, but then you must ask, "What is considered a date?"


When he says "I'd like to take you out to dinner." It's not rocket science. lol @ duck hunt


"Date" for Zippo has an entirely different meaning than 99% of the world, I'm sure.

As far as paying for things, I like to do that. It makes me happy. I like to buy my friends from work drinks when we go out, lunch or dinner when we eat out. Sometimes they do it for me. Then again, I work with the best bunch of people anyone could ever have hoped to find in a restaurant, so maybe I'm just lucky.
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Reply 14 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 10:18:14 PM)
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When he says "I'd like to take you out to dinner." It's not rocket science. lol @ duck hunt


notice this is much different than saying "I'd like to have you for dinner" Hannibal Lector ruined the dating scene.
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Reply 15 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 11:27:59 PM)
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Quoted from kayte:
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If someone asks me on a date I think it's reasonable to assume that they are going to pay. Because, you know, they asked. If it's not a date, then I expect to pay for myself.

Ah, but then you must ask, "What is considered a date?"


When he says "I'd like to take you out to dinner." It's not rocket science. lol @ duck hunt


If I want to go on a date, as in an outing to get to know someone better with the possibility of sex afterwards, I will simply say "How would you like to go out on a date?" This not only clears up any confusion about how I feel about the person, it also sets the mood for the whole night. If I am hungry and want to go eat, I will say "let's go get some dinner."

That is another shitty thing about women. They assume way too much.

Also, just to clear up some confusion... I am not dating this girl or anything. I'd never complain about paying for a girlfriend's food. I don't think I'd ever date this girl under any circumstances. She has a lot of hot friends and is fun company, but I couldn't date someone that does the crazy shit she does - which is a lot coming from me.
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Reply 16 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 11:34:55 PM)
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Maybe if you didnt go through so many bloody women you wouldnt be able to sound so assured when you place us into one of three catagories ;p Be more discerning. There are just as many awful men out there.


Men probably wouldn't be so shitty if women didn't make their lives hell. I know that 99% of the problems in my life are caused by vaginas.
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Reply 17 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-20-05 11:46:38 PM)
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Like, it's nice of you to buy her food and all, but it's stupid to complain when she doesn't thank you for whatever reason. She probably just forgot, or figures it's cool.
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Reply 18 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 06:33:38 AM)
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Quoted from kayte:
When he says "I'd like to take you out to dinner." It's not rocket science. lol @ duck hunt

People actually say "I'd like to take you out to dinner?" OMG why is Dad kissing that guy?!?
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"Date" for Zippo has an entirely different meaning than 99% of the world, I'm sure.
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I will simply say "How would you like to go out on a date?"
This was pretty much what I had in mind when I originally asked the question. It's a neutral request and does not imply anything about who is paying. And if you want to get technical, the most that you can reasonably assume from "I'd like to take you out to dinner" is that he'll pick you up and drive you there. It would take something like "it's on me" or "my treat" for me to assume as much.
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Reply 19 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 07:09:26 AM)
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Yeah, that is a lot of money to spend on someone in a week. That is just how I roll most of the time.


Hey - guess who deserves it!
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Reply 20 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 08:07:45 AM)
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Seriously. If she's not happy that you just made her taste 10 times better, you know you're seeing a cunt.
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Reply 21 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 07:25:27 PM)
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Like, it's nice of you to buy her food and all, but it's stupid to complain when she doesn't thank you for whatever reason. She probably just forgot, or figures it's cool.


If it had been only one occasion, I would have agreed with you. I know I've forgotten to say thank you (of course, I usually ended up going back - that whole guilt thing kicks in big) a few times, but I think it's just common courtesy to say thank you. It doesn't cost you anything to be polite - especially when someone does something nice for you.
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Reply 22 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 07:56:28 PM)
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I think it's a pretty good idea to try this experiment on me, and take me out for 50 dollars in dinner and drinks. big grin

In all seriousness, sounds like you just hang out with girls that don't have real good manners. Recently, a friend of mine took me out and spent like 70 bucks on dinner drinks and a movie, and seriously it made me feel so guilty, it's stupid. Mostly because I'm unemployed right now and don't know when I can pay it back. I really hate having lots of money spent on me, and I have a hard time accepting nice gestures without feeling guilty, or feeling way over-appreciative.

When I go on dates with anyone, I usually insist on paying half if I can. If I can't and the person says "No no no I insist on paying all of it." I say OK and show some sort of appreciation, and drop it. Even though I hate getting hand outs, I hate it even worse when people argue about who will pay. It seems to me to be too much of a "Look how good of a person I am" show. I don't have that much to prove.
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Reply 23 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 08:28:27 PM)
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Quoted from Nickolati:
Quoted from Snowy:
Maybe if you didnt go through so many bloody women you wouldnt be able to sound so assured when you place us into one of three catagories ;p Be more discerning. There are just as many awful men out there.


Men probably wouldn't be so shitty if women didn't make their lives hell. I know that 99% of the problems in my life are caused by vaginas.

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Reply 24 of 72 (Originally posted on: 11-21-05 10:39:11 PM)
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Quoted from Dimi:
Quoted from Nickolati:
Quoted from Snowy:
Maybe if you didnt go through so many bloody women you wouldnt be able to sound so assured when you place us into one of three catagories ;p Be more discerning. There are just as many awful men out there.


Men probably wouldn't be so shitty if women didn't make their lives hell. I know that 99% of the problems in my life are caused by vaginas.

I got 99 problems but a bitch aint one.


I thought you were dating the ex-mormon.

The whole thing is that it's not a "nice thing" if he's only doing it to try to get in her pants.
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