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(Originally posted on: 09-13-05 06:23:17 AM)
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I've been up all night and I've thought of a plan. I want to know how well it would work, and what I would need to do, in order to make a sell cigarettes on my campus. So far the reasons I have for doing this are to make money, and give me something to do. I also figured it was a good idea because I could still probably charge less for 20 than what a pack costs. I could also get a variety of tobacco, including flavor, organic, menthol, etc. I've run some numbers and if it worked I'd make 100% profit. If it became a bigger thing I could get a bigger machine and by tubes by the case, to save even more money. Right now, I just want to know if this is a fesible idea, and if anyone has any suggestions to help me?

I'm sure this idea is probably illegal in many diffrent ways, so if anyone knows about that or how I could possible get around it, that would be much apperciated.
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Reply 2 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 06:53:20 AM)
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from my understanding its an industry that you're lucky to break even on.
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Reply 3 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 07:02:23 AM)
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I would think you could make a shitload of money selling cigarettes. Especially with the price hikes.
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Reply 4 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 07:12:55 AM)
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I figure I could come out doing alright. I figured that 200 tubes is at most $3 and enough tobacco to fill would be like $18 highest for what I was looking at. So if I sold them for 4 bucks a pack (20) I'd get $20 profit. I also think I might just do it as a side hobby. The flavor is better than manufactured, so I could get a few people and if I could move 200 a week then it'd be a profitable hobby, espcially when you consider how much money college students actually have and spend.

I really what really questions me about all this is, if it's cheaper and better, why not make your own?
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Reply 5 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 07:29:44 AM)
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Some smokers do not like rolled cigs and prefer the store bought. Good luck on selling them, we had price hikes in Nova Scotia and people kept on buying them without blinking.
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Reply 6 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 07:35:33 AM)
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What about the taxes?
That's what really raise the prices.
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Reply 7 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 08:01:02 AM)
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Some smokers do not like rolled cigs and prefer the store bought. Good luck on selling them, we had price hikes in Nova Scotia and people kept on buying them without blinking.
I'm going to get an injector, I'm not going to roll them. So they'll have filters and paper just like store bought, only minus the brand name and lower levels of shitty tobacco and some chemicals.

I could probably get by marketing them as a healthier smoke. If it gets around to the FDA that I'm doing it, I'd be fucked either way.

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What about the taxes?
That's what really raise the prices.
I just looked into that and found I can produce them for the same cost the companies charge before taxes. Taxes double the cost of cigarettes in the state of Missouri.
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Reply 8 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 08:26:04 AM)
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Oh you won't get any traffic without nicotene
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Reply 9 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 08:26:45 AM)
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You'll profit a bit if you're buying tobacco and rolling it of course, but it might not be a huge profit margin. Also though, if the age to buy smokes is 19 like it is here, then you'll get a lot of business from frosh / freshmen.
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Reply 10 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 08:29:35 AM)
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But with gas prices the way they are cheap cigarettes would be real nice!
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Reply 11 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 09:02:06 AM)
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Quoted from Coca-Cola:
You'll profit a bit if you're buying tobacco and rolling it of course, but it might not be a huge profit margin. Also though, if the age to buy smokes is 19 like it is here, then you'll get a lot of business from frosh / freshmen.
It's only 18 here so most the people are good. However Smokey has a valid point.
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But with gas prices the way they are cheap cigarettes would be real nice!
Except that in the city most people could just walk, which brings me to the part of college students are lazy. So close smokes would be really nice.

Also if I decide to give them a name, I think I might call them 420's as that's my room number. But then I realized that might draw some attention. So my roommate suggested using the building code and calling them 242's. I also thought of 2420's but that's the same problem and it's too long. Any ideas?
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Reply 12 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 09:27:33 AM)
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Any cops here about this and you'd be arrested on the spot. Just a word of advice.
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Reply 13 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 09:32:53 AM)
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Any cops here about this and you'd be arrested on the spot. Just a word of advice.


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Reply 14 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 09:37:02 AM)
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My roommate rolls cigarettes with papers and filters that look just like normal cigarettes, but I hate them because no matter what tobacco he tries, or combines, or whatever, they never taste as good as store bought. He tried selling them, which in Chicago should have been fairly easy, but people would buy a pack and then go back to their regular smokes. It's a nice idea, but I can't really see it working because the quality is never going to be as good.
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Reply 15 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 09:58:36 AM)
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My roommate rolls cigarettes with papers and filters that look just like normal cigarettes, but I hate them because no matter what tobacco he tries, or combines, or whatever, they never taste as good as store bought. He tried selling them, which in Chicago should have been fairly easy, but people would buy a pack and then go back to their regular smokes. It's a nice idea, but I can't really see it working because the quality is never going to be as good.
What if I use 100% tobacco? I'm not honestly trying to make major amounts of money. I'm just looking to see how it could go wrong if I try it.
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Reply 16 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 10:27:44 AM)
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Like I said...a smoker isn't going to waste time on an nicoteinless cigarette.
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Reply 17 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 10:29:47 AM)
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Quoted from Smokey:
Oh you won't get any traffic without nicotene
It's in the tobacco. So it's there. Actually I think it might be in high amounts even... I'll have to check

EDIT: The scientific name for tobacco is Nicotiana tabacum. So logic dicatates the more tobacco, the more nicotine.

The chemicals I was talking about are like the 500+ listed here.http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sci_tech/features/health/tobaccotrial/inacigarette599.htm
However that's old information and with new laws the number has been bumped down to a tiny 464 additives. For example, CO2 is added to tobacco in the big companies, to make it swell like popcorn.
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Reply 18 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 11:09:37 AM)
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I was under the impression that the ammount in brand cigarettes is much higher than store bought tobacco.
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Reply 19 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 11:38:02 AM)
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Any cops here about this and you'd be arrested on the spot. Just a word of advice.


Uh, why?
Because the tobacco industry is eavily regulated by the federal government(for health, and taxation purposes.

Have you ever noticed the small tape of seals going across the bottom of a pack of cigarettes? That is the seal identifying them as having been taxed by the government.

That sort of fraud is actually investigated by low to mid level ATF agents.
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Reply 20 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 01:25:41 PM)
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The government and the Mafia are virtually the same thing
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Reply 21 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 01:31:00 PM)
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You'd make more selling heroin.

My brother's working at a convenience store right now, though, and the main attractions are ice cream and cigarettes. Mostly cigarettes, so if you set the prices right, you could make quite a profit.

Kids at my school sell tiny amounts of weed or even fake weed to stupid grade nines who want to fit in for $20 for a very, very small amounts.

They're making well over $100 in two days.
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Reply 22 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 01:58:18 PM)
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Sell them at a High School and you'll easily make twice as much.
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Reply 23 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 03:44:25 PM)
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Quoted from Ileus:
Quoted from nimo:
My roommate rolls cigarettes with papers and filters that look just like normal cigarettes, but I hate them because no matter what tobacco he tries, or combines, or whatever, they never taste as good as store bought. He tried selling them, which in Chicago should have been fairly easy, but people would buy a pack and then go back to their regular smokes. It's a nice idea, but I can't really see it working because the quality is never going to be as good.
What if I use 100% tobacco? I'm not honestly trying to make major amounts of money. I'm just looking to see how it could go wrong if I try it.


Yeah, the tobacco doesn't matter, I've had mass amounts of rolled cigarettes, and they all taste just like rolled cigarettes (which is very distantly related to the taste of store bought).
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Reply 24 of 50 (Originally posted on: 09-13-05 04:37:44 PM)
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