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Reply 13 of 62 (Originally posted on: 10-08-02 04:52:24 PM)
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Quoted from jimmy:
i, for one, can't see why anyone really cares whether or not another person believes in god or does not. look at it this way...christians approaching you trying to tell you the "truth" are doing so not to be condescending and rude. i feel that 90% of them really do care about you and want good things for you. for the person who's being preached to to become infuriated and attack the christian in question, i believe, is somewhat inhumane...look at why they're telling you what they're telling you and quit seeing it as them forcing their beliefs down your throat. some people just desperately want to do good for other people.
I'll respond to this first.
I have absolutely nothing against christians at ALL. But this christian happend to be arrogant and rude, I didn't post the whole chatlog, but his arguements ran in circles, I wasn't trying to get him to stop believing in god AT ALL, I was trying to get him to admit that he *could* be wrong. What I'm concerned with is all the girls that hear people like him and think "my feelings are wrong, I'm a sinner, I can't love another woman because I'm evil" and have a horrible conflicted life because of it.
The funny part (I didn't post it because I was going to bed right away, but I told Izzy about it) was this one part, where I had him admit that all his knowledge is tentative, because we're human and we're fallable, whatever, right? Then HE says this long complicated sentance, something like this "I'll admit that what I say is tentative, but you've said that what you know is tentative, so if we both know that we may be wrong, the fact that it is tentative ceases on my part because bible somethingorother" It was so stupid. It was much more garbled then that, and I told Izzy and he said "whaaaaaaa?" And I explained to him that the translation was "If I may be wrong, and you may be wrong, then I'm obviously absolutely right" It was stupid.
and FA, my sister's pretty religious, actually, so when she says something like that, it usually denotes dissaproval on her part. :-/
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He's like an evil religous robot.
Agreed. I did assume that he might answer to the voice of reason, I wasn't argueing against god, I was using bible passages to help my case, I even used the ever-popular parable of the Prodigal son.
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If "god" is an omnipotent, all seeing being that created everything from nothing, and has the power to destroy galaxies with the blink of an eye, AND is also a loving god that wants all of the people created in his image to be happy, why is there still suffering in the world?
If I were religious, I'd argue free will.
Which reminds me of something Clar said. He said that the bible was still the direct word of God, and I said... Well, he didn't write it down himself, did he? And he said "yes." and I was like, "c'mon now, didn't he get other people to write it for him?" "yeah" "and those people are fallable, right?" "No, because God wouldn't let his word be changed" "But he'd let thousands of people die in terrorist disasters, war, etc? I think if he's giving us free will, it's all or nothing." "It's his word" (read: shut up danielle, i have my own beliefs and they won't change until I die)
I hate people who take all this shit from the bible literally, but then if you tell them that the bible is against masturbation or something they say "it can be interpreted that way, but I don't think that's how it was meant"
Fuck it makes me angry.
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