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(Originally posted on: 10-31-04 09:23:58 PM)
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Welcome to this fourth installment of the INTL Film Festival. Our last four months - (July, August, September/ October) have gone rather well, so this month, I'm going to go with a theme suggested by Dante, a crime/gangster theme. I have chosen 6 movies on behalf of the suggestions brought forward.

However, before I list this months movies, allow me to outline some rules:

  1. The Terms of Service and the general rules of The Director's Cut still apply in this thread. Act like a moron and you'll be treated like a moron.
  2. The intention of this film festival is to expose people to great movies and stimulate discussion and forum cohesion through the discussion of the films featured.
  3. You may at any time suggest a movie (or a theme) for the following month; however, failure to participate in the film discussions will immediately put your suggestion in the back of the line.
  4. If you are having trouble finding a movie, do not make a request in this thread for someone to post a bootleg or illegal copy of the film, this will result in you being banned for an indetermined amount of time.
  5. I have included several links to other various sites that feature reviews, discussions, and spoilers pertaining to the film. Feel free to utilize those links to help stimulate the discussions here. Do not plagerize, however.
  6. I have also included a direct link to Amazon.com's listing for each film. If you enjoyed the film, please make use of this feature and purchase a copy of the film; by doing so you are both supporting those involved in creating the film and also INTL through the commission that is generated.


And with that, here are the movies for this month:

The General (1998)

Link To Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767833600/ref=ase_interestingno-20/102-1126466-8195310?v=glance&s=dvd
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120706/
IMDB Rating: 7.1/10 (1,453 votes)
Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1087427-general/
Rotten Tomatoes Rating: 85% Fresh
Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=11819460&trkid=73
Directed by: John Boorman
Starring: Brendan Gleeson, Adrian Dunbar, Sean McGinley
Language: English
MPAA Rating: R
Plot Summary: The real-life story of Dublin folk hero and criminal Martin Cahill, who pulled off two daring robberies in Ireland with his team, but attracted unwanted attention from the police, the IRA, the UVF and members of his own team.

A Bronx Tale (1993)

Link To Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6304884419/ref=ase_interestingno-20/102-1126466-8195310?v=glance&s=dvd
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106489/
IMDB Rating: 7.5/10 (7,945 votes)
Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bronx_tale/
Rotten Tomatoes Rating: 100% Fresh
Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=334648&trkid=73
Directed by: Robert De Niro
Starring: Robert De Niro, Chazz Palminteri, Lillo Brancato
Language: English/Italian
MPAA Rating: R
Plot Summary: A father becomes worried when a local gangster befriends his son in the Bronx in the 1960s.

Scarface (1983)

Link To Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AMRJC/ref=ase_interestingno-20/102-1126466-8195310?v=glance&s=dvd
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086250/
IMDB Rating: 7.8/10 (22,666 votes)
Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1018324-scarface/
Rotten Tomatoes Rating: 92% Fresh
Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60029681&trkid=73
Directed by: Brian De Palma
Starring: Al Pacino, Steven Bauer, Michelle Pfeiffer
Language: English/Spanish
MPAA Rating: R
Plot Summary: Remake of the 1932 film, which follows the rise of Tony Montana, a Cuban emigre who, with his friend Manny Ray, builds a strong criminal empire in early 1980's Miami.

Goodfellas (1990)

Link To Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000286RKW/ref=ase_interestingno-20/102-1126466-8195310?v=glance&s=dvd
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099685/
IMDB Rating: 8.6/10 (59,646 votes) #29 on top 250
Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/goodfellas/
Rotten Tomatoes Rating: 97% Fresh
Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?trkid=73&movieid=70002022
Directed by: Martin Scorsese
Starring: Robert De Niro, Ray Liotta, Joe Pesci
Language: English/Italian
MPAA Rating: R
Plot Summary: The story of Irish-Italian American, Henry Hill, and how he lives day-to-day life as a member of the Mafia.

The Godfather Trilogy (1972, 1974, 1990)

Link To Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00003CXAA/ref=ase_interestingno-20/102-1126466-8195310?v=glance&s=dvd
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/
IMDB Rating: 9.0/10 (105,620 votes) #1 on top 250
Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/godfather_collection/
Rotten Tomatoes Rating: 100% Fresh
Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?trkid=73&movieid=60011152
Directed by: Francis Ford Coppola
Starring: Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, James Caan
Language: English/Italian/Latin
MPAA Rating: R
Plot Summary: The epic saga of how a younger son rises to take over the family business, his father's paternalistic, but violent and illegal empire.

The Untouchables (1987)

Link To Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00029NKU6/ref=ase_interestingno-20/102-1126466-8195310?v=glance&s=dvd
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094226/
IMDB Rating: 7.8/10 (27,731 votes) #233 on top 250
Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/untouchables/
Rotten Tomatoes Rating: 83% Fresh
Netflix: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?trkid=73&movieid=60004086
Directed by: Brian De Palma
Starring: Kevin Costner, Sean Connery, Robert De Niro
Language: English
MPAA Rating: R
Plot Summary: Federal agent Elliot Ness assembles a personal team of mob fighters to bring Chicago crime boss Al Capone to justice using unconventional means during the mob wars of the 1920s.
Optional: If you have the ability to do so, I'd additionally recommend checking out "The Untouchables," the TV Series from the early 60's.

As well, feel free to suggest themes for next month.
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Reply 1 of 6 (Originally posted on: 10-31-04 10:27:08 PM)
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The General has to be one of my favorite crime movies, and what I like about it is that is stresses the humanity and dignity of the main character, despite him being a scheming (sometimes brutal) criminal mastermind. His crimes are contrasted with an intimate view of his personal life, and this makes it much easier for the average person to identify with Martin Cahill.  One of the most powerful scenes from the film is the one where he returns home to find that, in an act of coersion, the police have salughtered all of his pet pigeons. This makes his humanity stand out more against his criminal tendencies, as the police, in their pursuit of his capture and thereby justice, have transformed themselves into monsters, feinds more nefarious than the man they were pursuing.  An excellent crime film.

Scarface is another great film, but with a starkly different protagonist. Unlike Martin Cahill, Tony Montana is much more of an outright scumbag with ambition, whose ascent to the top of the Miami druglord hirearchy is fueled primarily by his superhuman greed. However, that doesn't meen he's not extremely enjoyable to watch: Al Pacino is at his very best in this movie, and Tony Montana is one of his greatest creations. The movie's action scenes are also very well done, and the overall tone of the movie gives it a very distinct flavor that really captures the seedier side of Miami in the 1980s. I'm curious to see The Untouchables, to compare it with this work and get a better sense of DePalma's directorial style (aside from Scarface, the only other DePalma movie I've seen is the Hitchcock-esque thriller Sisters).

As for future installments of INTLFF, like I mentioned last month, I think it would be cool to follow this month up with a police theme. For that, I recommend Serpico, a real-life story of one policeman's struggle with corruption within the NYPD. I'll probably think of some more to add later.
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Reply 2 of 6 (Originally posted on: 10-31-04 11:09:27 PM)
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Currently, I've only seen The Untouchables. I haven't caught the unrated version yet, as I've just seen it on one of Ted Turner's networks a few million times, but I'm fairly certain I've seen almost in it's entirety.
It's got a great mix of humor, emotion, suspense and acting.
Kevin Costner was absolutely astounding. And I loved the scene with Connery  when he picks up the dead man and blows his brains out to make the mobster talk.  Pure genius. As with most movies based on a true story, parts of this were painful to watch,  i.e. the accountant being killed, or Connery dying,  but on the whole, it was wonderful.

I'll be watching Scarface, the Godfather and Goodfellas shortly, most likely after I get this next wave of homework done, and I'll update you as to what I think of them.

As for next month/edition of the Film Festival, I'd second Spiff's policeman theme, as I'd love to have an excuse to rent Serpico. You could even have the Comedy Shaft option.

Edit: By unrated, I meant the version not edited for television.
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Reply 3 of 6 (Originally posted on: 11-04-04 12:57:01 PM)
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I've only seen GodFather and Untouchables. I better get to watchin'.
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Reply 4 of 6 (Originally posted on: 11-18-04 12:15:11 AM)
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crime/gangster films you might not think of immediately (or may have never heard of)

1) The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (This has a very shakespearian feel, with a very disturbing and hilarious twist. It has an ending I wish to God I could tell everyone but it would spoil everything. I'll just say this, the movie is more fucked up than Clockwork Orange)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000059LGL/qid%3D1100758023/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-3127416-7023034

2) City On Fire (This is the movie that inspired Tarantino to do resevoir dogs)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005BABM/qid=1100758123/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-3127416-7023034?v=glance&s=dvd
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Reply 5 of 6 (Originally posted on: 11-21-04 01:11:42 PM)
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Trivial fact: Sicilian is also spoken in The Godfather trilogy, mostly in the second movie.

EDIT: Other good crime-based movies include -

Casino

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112641/

Road to Perdition

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0257044/

The Sting

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070735/
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Reply 6 of 6 (Originally posted on: 11-29-04 06:20:03 PM)
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Pulp Fiction and Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels both fit very well in this category as well.
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