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Reply 18 of 55 (Originally posted on: 09-01-04 12:41:35 PM)
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Quoted from Chimp:
I didn't choose to go to war. I wasn't exactly consulted. Americans as a whole didn't make the decision, our governing body did.
I don't know the legality of linking you to it, nor how it would comply with INTL's rules.
our governing body is supposed to represent the wills of america as a whole. if they do or not is debateable, but the will of the government is offically the will of the people in a democracy such as the US.
our army doesnt go targeting civilians, but they most certainly do kill plenty of them. obviously intent matters, but not completely. they know damned well that they will without a doubt be responsible for civilian deaths, to think its impossible is completely ignorant.
people arent disintigrated by bombs, they are blown apart. the majority of people killed by bombs though id be willing to bet are those that are killed by the aftermath; collapsing buildings, fire and shrapnel and the like.
your disgust isnt just targeted at people taking innocent people hostage though, its against anyhow takes a hostage or kills another human being without concern for that person. but you also subly defend our (or any nations) troops fighting another military in war. really there is no difference besides method. thats my point, more or less. that and maybe not you specificly, but there are plenty of people out there who condem with all their might when the enemy kills someone, but either could care less or is glad when their team kills people. dropping bombs and launching missiles is a helluva lot more indiscriminate, wreckless and apathetic than taking a hostage and slitting their throat.
look at the prison torturing scandal... people justified our actions saying that if the enemy would commit such digusting, attrocious deeds such as kidnapping and executing our soliders then they deserve to be tortured. and some people simply thought they were below human and deserved it, or should be allowed it despite human rights laws and americas supposed concern about human rights (we tend to pick and choose though). surely the other side doesnt feel just as passionate about their comrades being killed, as we do about ours. so by these people's own rules the other side is just as justified in killing as our own, but its rarely seen that way. they are the vicious killers and we are the ones stopping them, by killing anyone who stands in our way.
i might almost rather have my throat slit than have a bullet or two punch through my stomach. i imagine you would die a hundred times faster and less agnonizingly that way.
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Whether it is a civilian or a soldier being killed, the effect on Iraqi society is the same. If the dozens of family members and friends of the dead person didn't hate the U.S. before, they certainly would now.
that has nothing to do with it.
Quoted from Xenos:
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America has only fought offensive wars in the last hundred years.
With the exception of WWII and Afghanistan/War on Terror.
if the war on terror includes iraq, that certainly wasnt a defensive war, no matter how much they like to claim it is.
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They're targeting innocent defenceless civilians to change the government's mind.They're cowards and should be stomped out. In the Nepalese case, their government isn't even involved. They killed them because they were trying to rebuild their country and "co-operated" with the Americans.
i still tend to think they arent cowards, even if they are scum.
I hate yankees and this is one reason why. Just because you can't pay for 3 hot dogs doesn't mean that the economy is bad and ya'll think that bush is an idiot because he's from Texas. Well f you because he saved your ass from people like Sadam Houssein and don't go thinking i'm just a minupulated trailor trash illiterate for taking up for him because I'm smarter than 90% of the world.
"There's not a lot of cursing, swearing, personal cuts, there's not a lot of put downs, it's not you know screen-fulls of you know "go to hell", it's just surprising."
--- John Allen about "Internet"
This reply was last edited on 09-01-04 12:51:27 PM by NNY.
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