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Would you like to see Nova again here at INTL?
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Yes 25 votes, 46.296%
No 29 votes, 53.704%
Totals: 54 votes, 103.058%
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(Originally posted on: 05-23-04 06:58:46 PM)
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Before you jump on the bandwagon, and respond with a "Hell no" and "he put you up to this, didn't he", just hear me out for I mean this with all sincerity. For those of you that are new, Adam, aka Nova, has been a member of this community for a year and a half now. He has seen a lot on the site in the small amount of time that it has been running. Just take a look at the timeline and you'll see for yourself. Many people have joined, and a few have left. Drama has boiled up from time to time, but has usually been resolved. Many new features have been implemented, the site got faster, and now it even has its own server.

Point being, Adam has also been banned on a number of occasions. Let's review the reasons for which he was banned for a second:

Nova - March 4th - Doing something that a mod said not to
If I remember correctly, this was not a part of the TOS until after he was banned.

Nova - April 8th - Creating a "Goodbye" thread
Others (such as Emp) have done this and they are all back on the site as we speak.

Nova - Sept. 16 - Posting like a dyslexic retard that had their drink spiked with roofies
Can't really blame him for this one as he was extremely intoxicated, and it never happened again so he obviously learned not to drink and post.

Will Smith/Adam - Spamming/repeated failure to use the edit button and instead just make a new post - one week
I wouldn't consider this to be spam; it only happened a couple of times. I've seen many forummers do it.

Nova - purposefully going off-topic/sass - 4 days
This one actually sounds like a legit ban so I can't really argue it.

Nova - one week - told Sally he was unbanned
Actually, he didn't, but people are quick to jump to conclusions without any concrete evidence.

Nova - 1 month - BanMe Tag - Moi.
See above (he may be a repeat offender, but other repeat offenders clearly were forgiven for this).

So you can now see what kind of a time Nova has had. This is not a personal attack on how the staff runs this site, as we can clearly see from day to day what a good job they do to keep it all running smoothly. It's just sad how people would always jump to ban Adam specifically. He hasn't had a fair chance. So why do some hold a grudge? I'm really not sure. If you click below you'll see many examples of his continuous quality posting on this site:

http://forums.interestingnonetheless.net/forum.php?fid=4&un=Adam&su=

Finally, Adam has been a great internet (or real life) friend to many of us over the years. I've heard many good things about his dedicated presence in the IRC channel, and I'm sure that a lot of you keep in contact with him via MSN/ICQ/AOL. Just some thoughts.

EDIT: And don't forget that it has been many months and Adam has not even attempted to smurf. That's more than can be said about other banned forummers in the past.
This reply was last edited on 05-23-04 07:03:52 PM by Coca-Cola.
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Reply 1 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 07:09:10 PM)
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I would love to help you out Coca-Cola, I think Adam's a wonderful guy, and I love his presence in IRC chats, and I loved his presence at the forums. But it isn't my position to say one way or another what Jeff should do. They're rightfully his forums, and that choice is purely his. And I'm certain that whatever option he selects will be the most prudent choice.

But good luck, my friend(s). i'm a serial-killer :)
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Reply 2 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 07:49:32 PM)
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Yes. I want him unbanned.

And I think Sandamnit told Sally he was unbanned.
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Reply 3 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 07:51:30 PM)
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Had the little bastard not asked for a ban and then tried to get past it by smurfing and still lurking in the forums, I'd say yes. But he asked for a ban, then came and tried to get around the thing he asked for, which is.. self-explanatory.
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Reply 4 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 08:07:16 PM)
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I don't really care one way or the other. But I doubt the admins will unban him.
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Reply 5 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 08:12:46 PM)
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This really needs to end. Everytime he's banned this happens over and over again.
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Reply 6 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 08:29:07 PM)
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I voted No.
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Reply 7 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 08:29:25 PM)
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And don't forget that it has been many months and Adam has not even attempted to smurf. That's more than can be said about other banned forummers in the past.


Yeah, they didn't even attempt to smurf.
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Reply 8 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 08:29:58 PM)
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He's given us too many reasons to keep him banned.

edit: and if you keep this up, Daniel, you should be banned too.
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Reply 9 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 08:42:25 PM)
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Who cares if he posts here? If you don't like what he has to say, see the "ignore user" button. I think it would suck a great deal to be banned from my favorite website and I also think it would be retarded. It doesn't seem to me that he's done anything absolutely horrible. Let the fucker post for chrissake.


p.s. I still don't understand the concept of asking to be banned. If someone could explain this to me, it would be appreciated. If you don't want to come here anymore, don't. That way, if you want to come back in the future, all this is avoided.
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Reply 10 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 09:41:55 PM)
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p.s. I still don't understand the concept of asking to be banned. If someone could explain this to me, it would be appreciated. If you don't want to come here anymore, don't. That way, if you want to come back in the future, all this is avoided.


People ask for bans because usually they think of themselves too addicted to a messageboard to be able to use willpower to stop coming. People often ask for 1 week bans at some forums so they can get messageboards off their minds while they study for exams, or people ask to be perma-banned and such so they can try to get their online persona behind them a live a "real life" and so on. For people with no will-power whatsoever.
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Reply 11 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:01:04 PM)
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I like Adam, but his e-melodrama is annoying and kinda creepy. I voted yes, but I don't know. Seems kind of silly.
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Reply 12 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:09:38 PM)
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everyone who voted yes should be banned, for ironys sake
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Reply 13 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:13:48 PM)
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the only reason i would vote for nova to come back (which i won't and never will) would be so that we could beat him back down to the point where he would start to hate himself and ask to be banned again.
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Reply 14 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:17:51 PM)
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the only reason i would vote for nova to come back (which i won't and never will) would be so that we could beat him back down to the point where he would start to hate himself and ask to be banned again.
you're fucking stupid, i hope you get hit with an electric baseball bat
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Reply 15 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:20:28 PM)
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Quoted from Salamando:
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
the only reason i would vote for nova to come back (which i won't and never will) would be so that we could beat him back down to the point where he would start to hate himself and ask to be banned again.
you're fucking stupid, i hope you get hit with an electric baseball bat


i just fucking said that i don't want his ass back here. i think he's a cancer on this site, and i wish coca-cola would quit with the "unban nova" threads. what i was saying (which you obviously didn't seem to grab) was that the only good part about having him back would be the fact that we could rip him to pieces again. i voted "no", cockass.
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Reply 16 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:22:08 PM)
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Quoted from awkward jimmy:
Quoted from Salamando:
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
the only reason i would vote for nova to come back (which i won't and never will) would be so that we could beat him back down to the point where he would start to hate himself and ask to be banned again.
you're fucking stupid, i hope you get hit with an electric baseball bat


i just fucking said that i don't want his ass back here. i think he's a cancer on this site, and i wish coca-cola would quit with the "unban nova" threads. what i was saying (which you obviously didn't seem to grab) was that the only good part about having him back would be the fact that we could rip him to pieces again. i voted "no", cockass.
what the FUCK does this have to do with me hating you and wanting you to get struck the fuck down in the most deadly way?

fuck off
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Reply 17 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:23:45 PM)
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Quoted from Salamando:
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
Quoted from Salamando:
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
the only reason i would vote for nova to come back (which i won't and never will) would be so that we could beat him back down to the point where he would start to hate himself and ask to be banned again.
you're fucking stupid, i hope you get hit with an electric baseball bat


i just fucking said that i don't want his ass back here. i think he's a cancer on this site, and i wish coca-cola would quit with the "unban nova" threads. what i was saying (which you obviously didn't seem to grab) was that the only good part about having him back would be the fact that we could rip him to pieces again. i voted "no", cockass.
what the FUCK does this have to do with me hating you and wanting you to get struck the fuck down in the most deadly way?

fuck off


pardon me, i was under the assumption that you actually had some sort of reason to post that in this thread. it seems you'd rather de-rail it because you're so distraught about finding out your girlfriend's a skank. good luck at the vd clinic.
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Reply 18 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:25:56 PM)
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Quoted from awkward jimmy:
Quoted from Salamando:
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
Quoted from Salamando:
Quoted from awkward jimmy:
the only reason i would vote for nova to come back (which i won't and never will) would be so that we could beat him back down to the point where he would start to hate himself and ask to be banned again.
you're fucking stupid, i hope you get hit with an electric baseball bat


i just fucking said that i don't want his ass back here. i think he's a cancer on this site, and i wish coca-cola would quit with the "unban nova" threads. what i was saying (which you obviously didn't seem to grab) was that the only good part about having him back would be the fact that we could rip him to pieces again. i voted "no", cockass.
what the FUCK does this have to do with me hating you and wanting you to get struck the fuck down in the most deadly way?

fuck off


pardon me, i was under the assumption that you actually had some sort of reason to post that in this thread. it seems you'd rather de-rail it because you're so distraught about finding out your girlfriend's a skank. good luck at the vd clinic.
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Reply 19 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-23-04 10:33:31 PM)
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Reply 20 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-24-04 12:36:27 AM)
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I don't care either way.
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Reply 21 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-24-04 12:48:48 AM)
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It doesn't really matter what we think since it is Sandamnit's decision. But having Nova back could liven the place up a bit.
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Reply 22 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-24-04 02:08:27 AM)
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I hold my highest doubts that Nova would ever be allowed back on the site. There's no point in asking the question because it won't happen. Think of it this way. If you keep pushing the issue, Sandamnit won't do it. Let it lay dead for an eternity, and he may get the chance that Salamando got (highly doubtful, but maybe).

Oh, and in Sandy's defense anyhow, he never told Sally he was unbanned. That was all Nova. One minute we're sitting here watching a movie and he just gets the idea to unban him, but not tell him. Not more than a few hours later, Sally was back on and roaming around.
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Reply 23 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-24-04 02:44:50 AM)
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No. I don't care if he ever did anything right or wrong. I don't like him, so I don't want him back.

Also, his "dedicated presence" in the IRC channel means that he sits there idle all day and holds no part in any conversations. Besides that, it holds no relevance what so ever to his presence on INTL.
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Reply 24 of 72 (Originally posted on: 05-24-04 03:07:37 AM)
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I voted no and didn't read anything in this thread. That's how strongly I feel that he sucks.
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