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(Originally posted on: 04-20-07 05:08:07 PM)
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I talked with Rich and we seemed agreed about moving back to a colocated server. If I can get a working server together into the 1U case I have, then can set up colocation with a cheaper monthly rate. Here are the two best colocation options:

$50/mo, no setup, 1000GB transfer/mo
1U or tower

$25/mo, $70 setup, 500GB transfer/mo
1U only

Given how poor I am, each computer part counts. So I'm going to list them.

2 x 300GB SATA hard drives

1U 150W power supply, will NOT power an opteron mobo
754 Athlon motherboard w/3 DIMMs
2Ghz Athlon 754 processor
3GB DDR400 RAM (non-ECC) in 1GB sticks

2 x opteron 252
1 940 opteron motherboard w/4 DIMMs, is NOT compatible with 252s
3GB DDR400 ECC Registered RAM in 512MB sticks

It would not be workable to get the opteron in the 1U configuration. The first reason is that a suitable 1U powersupply would be about $60 at least. The second is that I would need another 1U heatsink at $25+. The third is that the network card is flaky. I could put in another network card but then I wouldn't be able to get a video card in there.

If we are thinking of trying to use the opterons in a server that would involve getting a new motherboard, which is going to run about $150. And this would mean going back on the $50/mo plan.

I have all the parts necessary to build a 1U server if we are going that option. However, I'M USING THAT MACHINE. So I'd need it replaced. It's currently a file server that I leave running 24/7. I could get a cheap processor for the opteron motherboard to replace it, but that would consume a significant amount of electricity and I would end up paying that cost in other ways. Replacing the file server I have would cost about $100.

What does this all mean? Currently, I'm planning on setting up a 1U as a colocated server. However, I can't do this until I can replace my current file server and I can afford the upfront $120 ($70 setup, $25 first month, $25 shipping) it would cost to setup at the new colocation facility. In addition, I have to pay COD shipping for the old server that broke which is $35 out of my pocket.

So basically, until I save up about $200, we're going to stay on the slow shitting shared hosting. My stipend stops paying next month and I'll be living on money borrowed from my relatives to get through the summer, so we may be on this setup until the fall unless I can find another source of funds.
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Reply 1 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-20-07 06:50:47 PM)
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Well, for what it's worth, thanks. I still have that 40GB hard drive, if anything I could mail it to you and you could sell it.
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Reply 2 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-20-07 07:31:48 PM)
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By now my Paypal account hates Ety. Basically, send money if you can and appreciate INTL. I know some of you can afford $5 but haven't ever sent it, so be nice plz.
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Reply 3 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-20-07 07:35:21 PM)
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I may end up selling off the computer parts I can't use. My roommate just agreed to buy the opteron motherboard, 2 sticks of the ECC RAM, and a PSU for $90. But he won't be able to afford it until he gets a paycheck from his summer job, which will be in about a month and a half.

It looks like the pair of opteron 252s might go for about $150 on ebay. And I might be able to get the money for that sooner. But again, all this is going to take time.

Thanks for the offer of the hard drive, but I don't think I could sell it for more than it would cost you to ship it (hard drives are pretty heavy).
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Reply 4 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-20-07 07:48:45 PM)
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Once I get back to the States and get all my funds re-sorted (this trip has kinda tapped my bank account) I`ll send you guys a chunk of cash. Give it two weeks or so.

Thanks for all your work on this, ety!
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Reply 5 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-21-07 09:10:08 PM)
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I sent in that stick of DDR400, I dunno if you recieved it yet (could get to the PO so I stuck 2 stamps to it and hope it got there) I could probably spare a hundred bucks this month for you, or I could send you a 4600x2 if you have an AM2 board. get back to me on AIM.
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Reply 6 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-21-07 10:20:43 PM)
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Thanks for all the offers people. It's definitely appreciated.

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I sent in that stick of DDR400, I dunno if you recieved it yet (could get to the PO so I stuck 2 stamps to it and hope it got there) I could probably spare a hundred bucks this month for you, or I could send you a 4600x2 if you have an AM2 board. get back to me on AIM.

I don't have an AM2 board, unfortunately. I haven't received those sticks of RAM yet. But it could take a few days as I'm not near any big cities, and mail is usually slow to arrive here.
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Reply 7 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 03:14:07 PM)
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Has anyone ever considered the option of getting ads on the forum? Unobtrusive non popup silent ads like the google ones.

I know it's unpopular, but it would make the site easier to run.
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Reply 8 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 05:35:10 PM)
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Has anyone ever considered the option of getting ads on the forum? Unobtrusive non popup silent ads like the google ones.

I know it's unpopular, but it would make the site easier to run.

I appreciate the suggestion, but I am really against such an idea. Besides, the amount of revenue would almost certainly be miniscule. I'm pretty sure that if we had enough traffic to make the advertising model work, we'd be getting enough through premium subscriptions and the like anyway.
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Reply 9 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 08:41:18 PM)
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How about this:

Every member pays 3.00$-1.00$ a month (via pay-pal). This would mean that INTL (you) would rake in a stable income to sublimate your personal costs and everyone would be able to enjoy all of the features associated with being a premium member.

If you are a new member, you can be referred to as a probationary member where you will be entitled to 1 month (or so) of standard use.

If you choose no to pay the monthly fee, you don't need to be banned or kicked off. You will simply not be allowed to post, send PMs, or otherwise interact with other people on INTL. Although, you should still be allowed to use the arcade...or maybe not?

Either way, this system does three things. One, it provides a stable income to the proprietors of the Web site to sublimate the amount of money they have to shell out for it. Two, it isn't very taxing to pay a paltry 3 dollars a month on something you easily spends hours on entertaining yourself. 36 dollars a year is only a lot of money on a homeless person's salary (and they still make several thousand dollars a year from handouts, food, stolen items, et cetera). And three, everyone (who pays) will get to enjoy all of the features of INTL.
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Reply 10 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 08:55:49 PM)
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Given how many of us are so poor, I think that would just kill the forum. I'm sure most members could spare $36/yr, but then again, many would just say "oh well" and spend their time elsewhere.

If worse comes to worse, we'll just stay on shared hosting indefinitely, which is practically free in terms of monthly costs. Page loads slow down or hang every now and then, but it's better than shutting things down.
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Reply 11 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 09:12:35 PM)
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If worse comes to worse, we'll just stay on shared hosting indefinitely, which is practically free in terms of monthly costs. Page loads slow down or hang every now and then, but it's better than shutting things down.

Perhaps to emphasize, this server is available to INTL at no cost for any length of time, so the concern wouldn't be 'the death of INTL' through dire financial straits. But for a better server - a server that INTL will work better on - assistance is seemingly more than appreciated for Ety.

With that said - like the old guilty byline - I'm without extraordinary costs until sometime this summer, in which I do intend to assist you Brandon (even if by then the server is already up, I've been meaning to send something).


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Reply 12 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 09:14:32 PM)
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I'll give money if it will guarantee me social acceptance.
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Reply 13 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 09:15:25 PM)
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Given how many of us are so poor, I think that would just kill the forum. I'm sure most members could spare \$36/yr, but then again, many would just say "oh well" and spend their time elsewhere.

If worse comes to worse, we'll just stay on shared hosting indefinitely, which is practically free in terms of monthly costs. Page loads slow down or hang every now and then, but it's better than shutting things down.


Are you serious? Are people that short-sighted/retarded by their inability to think?

People spend about 2-10 hours on this site a week, I'm pretty sure they will realize that paying three dollars a month for this is far more economical than cable, twinkies, or porno.
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Reply 14 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 09:29:28 PM)
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Quoted from etymxris:
Given how many of us are so poor, I think that would just kill the forum. I'm sure most members could spare \\\$36/yr, but then again, many would just say "oh well" and spend their time elsewhere.

If worse comes to worse, we'll just stay on shared hosting indefinitely, which is practically free in terms of monthly costs. Page loads slow down or hang every now and then, but it's better than shutting things down.


Are you serious? Are people that short-sighted/retarded by their inability to think?

People spend about 2-10 hours on this site a week, I'm pretty sure they will realize that paying three dollars a month for this is far more economical than cable, twinkies, or porno.

it's based on the principle of the Free Rider (for which INTL currently sustains). When you remove something (ie. INTL) from a public good to a private good, the majority of people who have been using the service at the cost of another (ie. ety, if0, etc) will drop it because the specific financial demand for INTL would not be as sustainable as it is when there is zero cost to the demand. Ultimately, the move to a private good would cause its own failure.
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Reply 15 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-22-07 11:52:45 PM)
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When I get my first paycheck of the summer, I'll be donating to help with the server.

If I don't donate by June, call me out on this. (Unless I don't actually get that job... which I should. I'll bitch very loudly if I don't.)
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Reply 16 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-23-07 09:07:03 AM)
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I appreciate the suggestion, but I am really against such an idea. Besides, the amount of revenue would almost certainly be miniscule. I'm pretty sure that if we had enough traffic to make the advertising model work, we'd be getting enough through premium subscriptions and the like anyway.

Dude just show them all the google hits we get for 12 year olds fucking.

Any advertizer that wants to target the pedophile demographic would see the opportunity.

Edit: And after this reply, there will be even more of them!
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Reply 17 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-23-07 09:16:19 AM)
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Reply 18 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-26-07 02:44:34 AM)
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Well the processors in my home machine have more or less kicked the bucket; they've been giving me trouble for quite some time actually. So I'm just using the opteron 252s and 2gb of the RAM in my own machine. That means I won't be getting any money from selling those. I'm still selling the other parts to my roommate for $90, but it could be a month or so before I see that money.

I appreciate the promises of donations. If we get just a few of those the colocated server will be set back up again much more quickly.
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Reply 19 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-29-07 03:45:24 PM)
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Speaking of issues, omgz HACKED BY ADANALI wtf was that?
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Reply 20 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-29-07 03:48:09 PM)
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Speaking of issues, omgz HACKED BY ADANALI wtf was that?


it was TERRORISM
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Reply 21 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-29-07 03:57:05 PM)
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A php file was replaced by - what I assume - a rapper hacker from Turkey. The hack was fixed, and additional steps have been taken to (hopefully) ensure that it shouldn't happen again.
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Reply 22 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-29-07 06:52:39 PM)
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Actually we have little idea how the forum was defaced and it could easily happen again. I've removed some unnecessary software packages, but I'm not at all confident in saying we won't get hacked again.
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Reply 23 of 30 (Originally posted on: 04-29-07 07:50:11 PM)
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but I'm not at all confident in saying we won't get hacked again


The list just goes on and on and on....

I bet it turns out that it is Bill Gates taking revenge on the kernel-based community
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Reply 24 of 30 (Originally posted on: 05-22-07 05:24:33 AM)
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I submitted my colocation order last Thursday and have yet to receive my network settings and information on where to ship the server. I call and email and I keep being told that this information will be sent "right away", "within the hour", and even "within the next few minutes", but it has yet to arrive. This is truly a mysterious way to run a business.
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