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(Originally posted on: 05-05-02 07:40:29 PM)
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Alright. Here's what's going on with this.

I need a terms of service for this site. This terms of service will outline all the rules of the site. It'll have the rules of conduct, bannable offenses, et cetera.

I have a vague idea of what is going to be in it, but I need some help with a few other things. Once I have enough content to draft it, I will initiate it.

The purpose of a TOS is to basically protect me from any responsibility for files that you upload and the content of which you post, which may or may not be illegal.

Once this document is drafted, every single person will need to read it and click "Agreed" in order to continue using this site. Likewise, when registering an accoun, you will need to click "Agreed" in order to create your account. The funny thing is that most people don't even bother reading the TOS and get pissed off when they break one of the rules, so we can use that to our advantage and employ a "Ignorance is no excuse" policy, thus keeping out the morons.

If you have any ideas or want to make any suggestions as to what should be present within the upcoming TOS, feel free to make some suggestions.

I would prefer to keep this site a "commonsense" forum, but since some people lack such a thing, the need for a TOS is necessary not only to protect myself as a webmaster, but as a reference to the rules of this site.

EDIT: TOS
"Some people turn to drugs such as heroin or cocaine for their brain-wasting, body-killing, soul-destroying effects. Others turn to religion for its brain-wasting, body-killing, soul-destroying effects."
- Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka, Something Awful
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Reply 1 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 07:42:52 PM)
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Put something in about fecal porn. It's a no-no.

And maybe something about posting stupid shit being a bannable offense.
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Reply 2 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 07:48:03 PM)
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Quoted from ice:
Put something in about fecal porn. It's a no-no.


I'll figure something out for offensive porn. It won't be a bannable offense, but habitually posting disgusting porn will result in a ban.

Quoted from ice:
And maybe something about posting stupid shit being a bannable offense.


Posting stupid shit won't be bannable, that's what the Hall of Shame is for, but like above, anyone that is habitually being a dumbass will be banned.
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Reply 3 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:03:16 PM)
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Make a guideline about keeping images small.

I don't want 200, 300, 900 KB images cluttering up the forum.
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Reply 4 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:10:11 PM)
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No one who viewed that fecal porn found it offensive they simply just did not enjoy looking at it.
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Reply 5 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:12:38 PM)
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Either way, it was fucken nasty.
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Reply 6 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:13:37 PM)
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Indeed it was, that is why I won't post anything like that again.
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Reply 7 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:16:21 PM)
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What was going through your mind?
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Reply 8 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:16:55 PM)
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I don't think we want to know.
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Reply 9 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:17:48 PM)
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No we do not want to know. We can only imagine.
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Reply 10 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:18:26 PM)
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I'd rather not think about it.
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Reply 11 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:28:39 PM)
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My thoughts:

Put in a clause that says you reserve the right to read or otherwise access a member's private information or files submitted to this site. (aka they have no real privacy)

However, also state that you have no policy that involves conducting such investigation.

That way, you prevent a claim that they had any privacy rights and yet take no responsibility for the content they upload.

Also, state that anything of an illegal nature should not be uploaded. Once again, the user takes any and all responsibility. If anything is detected that is illegal, it will be deleted.

(those are my quick suggestions - viewing other public TOS will give you a good idea)
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Reply 12 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:28:45 PM)
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I was wondering what all of your reactions would be.
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Reply 13 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:28:47 PM)
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Maybe he was thinking "Mmmmm! Crap-tastic!"?
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Reply 14 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:31:04 PM)
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Here's what I got so far, this is by no means finalized. Any suggestions are welcome.

Welcome to Interesting Nonetheless. So I take it that you’ve decided to register an account at this site. Well, you’re more than welcome to do so, but there are a few rules and regulations that you must first understand before you are allowed to continue using this site.

1. The content of this Terms of Service is subject to change without any notice or forewarning, thus you are expected to keep up to date with this document in order to eliminate the possibility of violating a rule within and either having your account suspended, deleted, or banned.

2. This site contains offensive language and may contain offensive images. If you have any qualms with that, it is suggested that you do not register an account here and never come back. Simply said, if you have a problem with offensive language and certain offensive images (including, but not limited to that of pornography), you are not welcome. Ever. If you register an account here for the sole purpose of coming in here to complain that something we are talking about is “against your beliefs” or something along those lines, you will be banned and your post will be deleted, no questions asked.

3. As mentioned in the previous point, the posting of pornographic and/or offensive images is allowed, unless clearly stated within the sub-forum’s guideline. When and if you decide to create a thread that has pornographic or offensive images and/or links to pornographic or offensive sites, you are expected to notify that the thread contains such content within the title of your thread. For example: “New Aria Giovanna Image Set [Not Work Safe]”. Failure to do so will result in your thread getting hidden or deleted and you will get a warning.

4. You are allowed to porn and/or other non-work safe images within threads that are not previously labeled “Not Work Safe.” Yet, any images, which are pornographic and/or offensive, must be linked using the [url] tags and accompanied with a “Not Work Safe” tag, so that anyone that would be tempted to click such a link will know not to click it when at work or school.

5. When and if you post ANY images of ANY content, work-safe or not, you are expected to ONLY link images that are hosted on this server or your own server. Any images that you link off of webspace that is not your own, you are expected to use the [url] tags, failure to do so will result in a moderator or administrator editing your post and replacing the [img] tag with the [url] tags. This is to prevent from directly leeching bandwidth off of other servers for every single page view such thread generates. If you habitually link images off of other servers, you will be warned, then banned accordingly.

6. Whenever you link images with the [img] tag, the image must be less than 100KB in size and MUST NOT exceed 800 pixels in width and 600 pixels in height. If you want to post an image that is larger than 100KB and/or larger than 800x600 in dimension, you must use the [url] tag. If a moderator or administrator sees such an image, they will edit your post, replacing [img] with [url]. Habitually doing such, will result in a warning, further violations of this WILL result in a banning. Just follow the damn rule.

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Reply 15 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:33:03 PM)
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Disadvantages:
Absolutely no one reads TOS'.

Advantages:
If some dumbass were to post obsene shit all over the boards, and someone banned him, and he complained, you would have some grounds of which to defend your case upon.
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Reply 16 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:36:06 PM)
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Actually, the fact that they don't read the TOS isn't a disadvantage, because if they are ignorant enough to do something that is disallowed within the TOS, we don't want them here anyway.
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Reply 17 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:37:15 PM)
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I know, but then you would be writing all that stuff for nothing, and no one would cower in fear over it.
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Reply 18 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:37:15 PM)
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Looking good, Sandy. Here's a mistake I caught:
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4. You are allowed to porn and/or other

Forgot the word "post".
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Reply 19 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:37:39 PM)
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4. You are allowed to porn and/or other non-work safe images within threads that are not previously labeled “Not Work Safe.” Yet, any images, which are pornographic and/or offensive, must be linked using the [url] tags and accompanied with a “Not Work Safe” tag, so that anyone that would be tempted to click such a link will know not to click it when at work or school.


I think it would be better to simply say no porn or links to porn in threads which don't have the "Not Work Safe" tag.
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Reply 20 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:38:10 PM)
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Maybe he was thinking "Mmmmm! Crap-tastic!"?


That had better not be me.
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Reply 21 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:39:33 PM)
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Just keep telling yourself that.
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Reply 22 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:40:27 PM)
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I think the main worry isn't the actions of forummers complaining about being banned - it's that his service provider will axe his account because of something some dumbass does. If they don't read the TOS, it's no big deal.
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Reply 23 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:46:49 PM)
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Quoted from MeatLoafX:
I think the main worry isn't the actions of forummers complaining about being banned - it's that his service provider will axe his account because of something some dumbass does. If they don't read the TOS, it's no big deal.


Exactly. If no one reads it, no big deal, it's still needed as an outline of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

By the way, I just took your advice and wrote this up.

Quoted from TOS rought draft:
7. Forum administrators reserve the right to read or otherwise access your private information or files that are contained on the server. Accessing your private information (such as, but not limited to private messages, files, and profile information) is done at the administrator’s discretion. The administrators of this site also reserve the right to report illegal files and/or activity at their own discretion to the proper authorities. Examples of such illegal files are as follows, but not exclusively limited to: child pornography, bestiality, pirated software, and documents of an illegal scope or nature.


See anything wrong with it?
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Reply 24 of 55 (Originally posted on: 05-05-02 08:47:58 PM)
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We should include something about racism.

We don't want people in here screaming about how niggers should die and jews are taking over our economy. And, I mean, being serious. If I called Sandamnit a dirty homo nigger, that's just a joke. If a fundie comes in and complains about fags destroying America, that's psychotic zealotry.
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